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To: Fantasywriter
QUOTE: "While we’re at it, here’s another passage for you. Proverbs 8:17: “I love those who love me; And those who diligently seek me will find me.”

I think the key word here is "diligently". We disagree on whether anyone does so without God's prompting. I have quoted multiple verses above that indicate "...no one cometh unto me (Jesus) unless the Father first draw him". Thus, I am convinced that no on seeks God diligently.

As far as your intentions regarding limited punishment, I told you I did not contest that point. However, the destiny of all unbelievers is "everlasting punishment" in the Lake of Fire, or eternal fire, if you want to allegorize away Revelation 20.

Regarding your challenge for me to summarize your intentions, why prevaricate about the bush. What's your point?

143 posted on 06/02/2014 7:40:03 PM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

Okay, here is a different translation of the same verse from Proverbs:

“I love those who love me, and those who seek me find me.”

Use whatever translation you like. But the point is, it affirmatively says, ‘those who seek me find me.’. You are saying the opposite. Why doesn’t it scare you out of your very mind, to contradict the Word of God? If it doesn’t, it should.

‘As far as your intentions regarding limited punishment, I told you I did not contest that point. However, the destiny of all unbelievers is “everlasting punishment” in the Lake of Fire, or eternal fire, if you want to allegorize away Revelation 20.

Regarding your challenge for me to summarize your intentions, why prevaricate about the bush. What’s your point?’

My point is that I’ve already written to you extensively on this topic, & you misunderstood every word. If you want me to repeat everything I’ve already said, no dice. Once, & in some cases twice already, is enough. You have three options. (1) go back & reread my comments, & this time really try to grasp the point. (2) Ask yourself *why* you can’t understand a non-complicated answer in this particular case. (3) Just keep whiffling around acting like I’m the one who should rehash it all, when in fact there is no need for any of it to be reiterated. It’s all been said. Something is keeping you from comprehending it. Please note, I’m not saying something is keeping you from agreeing with it. You can comprehend something & disagree w it. But you can’t possibly disagree with what you can’t comprehend. That is axiomatic.


144 posted on 06/02/2014 7:55:21 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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