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To: Fantasywriter
QUOTE: Do you believe that is literally what happened when Mary gave birth to Jesus?”
Since you believe this is the “heart of the matter”, let’s agree it’s important. So I will wait, however long it takes, for you to answer the question. I.e.: do you believe all of the above, plus the in-between vss I didn’t cite, happened *literally* when Mary gave birth to the Christ?

I did not think the assertion deserved a response. But since you insist, of course the description of Jesus' birth in Rev 12:1-4 is figurative.

The general hermeneutical principle outlined by Dr. David L. Cooper, the founder of The Biblical Research Society is this:

When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense;
Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning
Unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light
Of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths indicate clearly otherwise.

Thus, most would say the "great sign in heaven" of Rev 12:1 was allegorical or figurative, whilst the "great white throne" judgement of Rev 20:11 was literal.

103 posted on 05/31/2014 7:29:04 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray

‘I did not think the assertion deserved a response.’

Why do you feel the need to insult my question? It was a perfectly legitimate question. I have not so far insulted you, & I don’t intend to start. Nor do I see what you gain from it. There’s nothing lost in treating each other with mutual respect.


105 posted on 05/31/2014 7:59:45 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: jimmyray

‘The general hermeneutical principle outlined by Dr. David L. Cooper, the founder of The Biblical Research Society is this:

When the plain sense of Scripture makes common sense, seek no other sense;
Therefore, take every word at its primary, ordinary, usual, literal meaning
Unless the facts of the immediate context, studied in the light
Of related passages and axiomatic and fundamental truths indicate clearly otherwise.’

Is Cooper speaking specifically of Apocryphal Scripture? Or is that a more general principle?


106 posted on 05/31/2014 8:07:18 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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