Posted on 04/30/2014 9:57:19 AM PDT by Gamecock
Er, so no, you’re not married IMHO. You have a social contract.
It’s a great film, and I agree with you. But, back to the question, which the wording of the other post raised, if a person did not make a religious vow and got married by the state, is it valid? Could some wretch legitimately leave his wife upon the basis that it was done by the state and not by God?
I consider the marriage valid of course, but interested in the response.
I think that’s a dangerous claim to make, as it means that a couple can basically live as a husband and wife, raise a family, and one of them might become a “Christian” and declare the marriage invalid and walk away.
Also, what if two people who were NOT converted, got married, and then converted later. Does that mean their marriage is invalid until they reaffirm their vows according to their new faith?
Are you logic challenged?
Are you incapable of discerning cause and effect?
You’re not arguing with me, you’re arguing with God. Jesus said that what God has joined together no man can take apart. You might as well argue with the wall. People ALWAYS want a secret handshake to make it all go away. Not my problem.
I think you understood my post in reverse! I am in complete agreement with you. I am just disagreeing with the idea that a marriage under any other circumstance, even if the twain are infidels who married without any religious oaths, are not married in the sight of God.
I would suggest that if he thought leaving was “legitimte” because God wasn’t involved our hypothetical man would therefore have gotten religion and would gather up his GF and head out to find a local pastor.
I think that not knowing God must be present means that the contract was not entered into knowingly, willingly, and without duress. All of these we necessary. Are weddings performed for theatrical reasons valid? Nope.
Also, because this is a caucus - the beliefs of those who are not members of the caucus must not be mentioned at all. For example, do not mention Catholicism on this thread.
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