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To: stevem
The words of Jesus are quite clear on this:

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Matthew 6:14-15


“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.

Matthew 7:1-2


The bottom line is that we are to trust God to take care of these things. When we judge others, we are effectively saying that we don't trust God to see it and resolve it the way we think it should be done. But the good news is that we still have the opportunity to clean up our past by repenting for our past judgments, turning them over to Him, and declaring our trust in Him to resolve them in the way He sees fit. The truth of the matter is that we don't have full information on anything. But God does.

39 posted on 04/20/2014 1:32:11 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat
15 “If your brother sins against you,[a] go and rebuke him in private.[b] If he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 But if he won’t listen, take one or two more with you, so that by the testimony[c] of two or three witnesses every fact may be established.[d]
46 posted on 04/20/2014 1:52:10 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Hoodat
"When we judge others, we are effectively saying that we don't trust God to see it and resolve it the way we think it should be done."

So open adultery, lying, fornication, sexual immorality, apostasy, etc. should run rampant in the Church?

How about leaders ordering you to defy God's commands?

Also, does God wants us to be Spiritually gutless assuming He will take care of converting "free willers" in the Church?

And finally, does God want us to worship under false teachers?

“If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone (Judging others, hmmm). If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

Contradicts your quote in bold at the top, hmmm... What exactly does "judge" mean in the different CONTEXT throughout the Word? We are to be wise while building strong foundations, not fools and excusing behaviors based on Spiritual impotence.
47 posted on 04/20/2014 1:52:49 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Hoodat

The truth of the matter is that we don’t have full information on anything. But God does.


Amen to that.


68 posted on 04/20/2014 3:36:28 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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