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Canonization of popes John Paul II, John XXIII to draw millions to Rome
New York Post ^ | 04/20/14 | Pedro Oliveira Jr

Posted on 04/20/2014 10:45:40 AM PDT by Old Yeller

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To: BlatherNaut

I forgive those folks who in trying to promote TLM bash those who attend and love the NO as well. Have a good and blessed Happy/Holy Easter Season!


101 posted on 04/22/2014 4:34:47 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NKP_Vet

You stated that every town in the world that had a Catholic Church had a Latin mass. That is patently false. The link you gave only shows that many Trads have to drive quite a distance to get to a Latin Mass in the US(and, again, that’s here in the US). It is true that it is not “forbidden” but it’s not something easily come by for most Traditional Catholics.

It is my understanding that until Benedict’s Motu Proprio in 2007, there were no Latin masses after Vatican II. Not officially forbidden, but not encouraged either. Then again, the FFI was forbidden to celebrate the Latin mass quite recently, so things seem to be a-changing under Francis’ watch.


102 posted on 04/22/2014 5:08:05 AM PDT by piusv
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To: Biggirl

And I forgive those folks who put down other Catholics, mischaracterizing them as “bashers”.

Have a blessed Easter Season.

He is risen, alleluia!


103 posted on 04/22/2014 5:26:45 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
And I forgive those folks who put down other Catholics, mischaracterizing them as “bashers”.

It is easier to call others bashers than to actually research the facts.

104 posted on 04/22/2014 5:31:07 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

There were highly restricted “indult” Masses. The faithful were falsely led to believe that their right to the Traditional Mass was abrogated, and that allowances were (generously) being made in limited instances, when in reality, the TLM was never abrogated, as Benedict XVI eventually made clear. In short, the faithful were abused and misled by the reformers.

QUATTUOR ABHINC ANNOS
Indult for Use of Roman Missal of 1962
Congregation for Divine Worship
The following is the text of a Circular Letter sent on 3 October 1984 by the Congregation for Divine Worship to the Presidents of Episcopal Conferences.
Most Rev. Excellency:

Four years ago, by order of the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II, the bishops of the whole Church were invited to present a report:

—concerning the way in. which the priests and faithful of their dioceses had received the Missal promulgated in 1970 by authority of Pope Paul VI in accordance with the decisions of the Second Vatican Council

—concerning the difficulties arising in the implementation of the liturgical reform;

—concerning possible resistance that may have arisen.

The result of the consultation was sent to all the bishops (cf. Notitiae, n. 185 December 1981). On the basis of their replies it appeared that the problem of priests and faithful holding to the so-called “Tridentine” rite was almost completely solved.

Since, however, the same problem continues, the Supreme Pontiff, in a desire to meet the wishes of these groups grants to diocesan bishops the possibility of using an indult whereby priests and faithful, who shall be expressly indicated in the letter of request to be presented to their own bishop, may be able to celebrate Mass by using the Roman Missal according to the 1962 edition, but under the following conditions:

a) That it be made publicly clear beyond all ambiguity that such priests and their respective faithful in no way share the positions of those who call in question the legitimacy and doctrinal exactitude of the Roman Missal promulgated by Pope Paul VI in 1970.

b) Such celebration must be made only for the benefit of those groups that request it; in churches and oratories indicated by the bishop (not, however, in parish churches, unless the bishop permits it in extraordinary cases); and on the days and under the conditions fixed by the bishop either habitually or in individual cases.

c) These celebrations must be according to the 1962 Missal and in Latin.

d) There must be no interchanging of texts and rites of the two Missals.

e) Each bishop must inform this Congregation of the concessions granted by him, and at the end of a year from the granting of this indult, he must report on the result of its application.

This concession, indicative of the common Father’s solicitude for all his children, must be used in such a way as not to prejudice the faithful observance of the liturgical reform in the life of the respective ecclesial communities.

I am pleased to avail myself of this occasion to express to Your Excellency my sentiments of deep esteem.

Yours devotedly in the Lord

Augustin Mayer, Pro-Prefect
Virgilio Noe Secretary

http://www.ewtn.com/library/curia/cdw62ind.htm


105 posted on 04/22/2014 5:42:16 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut

So, a form of golden handcuffs.


106 posted on 04/22/2014 5:49:15 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Indeed.


107 posted on 04/22/2014 5:51:55 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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