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This is a very interesting take on the movie Noah. The point of Gnostic/Kabbalist view rather than Biblical makes sense to me. It deserves consideration and thoughtful discussion.
1 posted on 04/01/2014 3:17:20 PM PDT by GreyFriar
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Noah film critique ping.


2 posted on 04/01/2014 3:19:04 PM PDT by GreyFriar ( Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

The Bible says satan will appear like an angel of light....

Apparently some church leaders have been drawn to the Hollywood glitz. Some are more apt to pack a theater than a pew.


3 posted on 04/01/2014 3:27:50 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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I saw "Noah" yesterday. WHAT garbage. The story was FICTION, pure and simple.
Russell Crowe was fabulous as was Anthony Hopkins in his bit role. Those two are ALWAYS fabulous. I only saw it because of Russell Crowe.
Emma Watson, with her lovely accent, diction and pretty face, was AMAZINGLY miscast for the part.

The star of the show was the special effects. But, no one is surprised at that. Those folks deserve an Oscar.

4 posted on 04/01/2014 3:28:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GreyFriar

Is it pagan, or is it Kabalist?


5 posted on 04/01/2014 3:32:59 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GreyFriar
It's a typical Hollywood product: flashy trash.

Praise it at your own peril.

But recommendations and condemnations really aren't that newsworthy.

Anyway, here's one of the many responses, this article provoked.

It wouldn't be surprising that Aronofsky's film contains Kaballistic imagery -- so did his film Pi.

Whether that adds up to a thoroughgoing gnostic interpretation of the Bible story is a more complicated question.

8 posted on 04/01/2014 3:59:42 PM PDT by x
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To: GreyFriar

What people need to realize is the studio and the director made a liberal, leftist, ‘green’, global warming and enviro-whacko PROPAGANDA HIT PIECE against the foundations of Christianity and the Bible — and instead, sneaking in their enviro-whacko IDEOLOGY as the basis of the movie!

Dennis Prager, in the following Freeper posting, explains what is going on, in our culture. This movie NOAH is a prime example of how that works.

Judaism, Christianity, Environmentalism
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3139589/posts

ALSO ... if someone wants to see the list of articles on a Free Republic search, you can use this, too ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/noahthemovie/index


10 posted on 04/01/2014 4:16:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GreyFriar

The problem is that many viewers of this film have no firm theological foundation. There are those who have never read the biblical accounts. Then there are those who read them but are not aware of the foundation that is being laid down in theological terms in the early parts of genesis. These people are sheep who are easily led astray.

It is one thing for someone really well versed in theology and basic theological arguments to see and argue the nuances of the movie. It is quite another to let this film have an effect on the viewers understanding of the consequence of sin, our need for redemption, God’s holiness, God’s love for humanity, God’s unilateral promises, God’s power over creation to name a few.

The foundation of Christianity and Judaism is laid out in the first Genesis stories. In order to attack Christianity, it is necessary to attack the foundational aspects in Genesis. The heresies cannot stand without redefining these stories.


11 posted on 04/01/2014 4:33:34 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: GreyFriar

We make things so complicated when bible is so simple:

Genesis 3:5

“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God,...


12 posted on 04/01/2014 4:38:52 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: GreyFriar

I saw this on Facebook earlier today. This is an excellent article and very eye-opening. I believe this is the story the director intended to tell, with a wink that he would use a little artistic license with the story of Noah. The parallels—down to the names of the fallen angels/demons and the “enlightening” powers of the serpent—are uncanny.

I am glad I said “no thanks” to this garbage.


14 posted on 04/01/2014 5:13:56 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: GreyFriar

I think the Kabbalist aspect is part of Jewish history if my memory is correct.


18 posted on 04/02/2014 3:59:55 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: GreyFriar

I note with some interest that not a single of the “Christian thought leaders” who endorsed the movie is named.


20 posted on 04/02/2014 11:58:02 AM PDT by dmz
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To: GreyFriar
Dr. Brian Mattson, a theologian with a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from the University of Aberdeen who now serves as Senior Scholar of Public Theology for the Center for Cultural Leadership, has written a scathing review of Darren Aronofsky's "Noah" that takes special aim at the numerous Christian leaders who endorsed a film "direct from Kabbalist and Gnostic sources" that has zero to do with the Bible.

That "scathing review" cites example after example of the "Kabbalist and Gnostic sources" that were used to add detail to the Noah story, the most disturbing of which to me is this story element:

The action opens when Lamech is about to bless his son, Noah. Lamech, rather strangely for a patriarch of a family that follows God, takes out a sacred relic, the skin of the serpent from the Garden of Eden. He wraps it around his arm, stretches out his hand to touch his son—except, just then, a band of marauders interrupts them and the ceremony isn’t completed. Lamech gets killed, and the “villain” of the film, Tubal-Cain, steals the snakeskin. Noah, in other words, doesn’t get whatever benefit the serpent’s skin was to bestow. The skin doesn’t light up magically on Tubal-Cain’s arm, so apparently he doesn’t get “enlightened,” either. And that’s why everybody in the film, including protagonist and antagonist, Noah and Tubal-Cain, is worshiping “The Creator.” They are all deluded....

....Many reviewers thought Noah’s change into a homicidal maniac on the ark, wanting to kill his son’s two newborn daughters, was a weird plot twist. It isn’t weird at all. In the Director’s view, Noah is worshiping a false, homicidal maniac of a god. The more faithful and “godly” Noah becomes, the more homicidal he becomes. He is becoming every bit the “image of god” that the “evil” guy who keeps talking about the “image of god,” Tubal-Cain, is. But Noah fails “The Creator.” He cannot wipe out all life like his god wants him to do. “When I looked at those two girls, my heart was filled with nothing but love,” he says. Noah now has something “The Creator” doesn’t. Love. And Mercy. But where did he get it? And why now? In the immediately preceding scene Noah killed Tubal-Cain and recovered the snakeskin relic: “Sophia,” “Wisdom,” the true light of the divine. Just a coincidence, I’m sure.

Sadly, Mattson fails to back up his headline by not naming a single "Christian Leader" who was "fooled" by the film. Instead, what he says about those unnamed leaders is this blistering critique:
So let me tell you what the real scandal in all of this is. It isn’t that he made a film that departed from the biblical story. It isn’t that disappointed and overheated Christian critics had expectations set too high. The scandal is this: of all the Christian leaders who went to great lengths to endorse this movie (for whatever reasons: “it’s a conversation starter,” “at least Hollywood is doing something on the Bible,” etc.), and all of the Christian leaders who panned it for “not following the Bible”… Not one of them could identify a blatantly Gnostic subversion of the biblical story when it was right in front of their faces.

24 posted on 04/02/2014 7:56:26 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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