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To: Gamecock

I don’t care what you believe about the RCC. I am just tired of people saying that they believe in freedom, when in reality, they don’t believe in it at all. Only totalitarians concern themselves with what people think as opposed to what they actually do.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 6:19:37 AM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

So you are concerned with what I think.

What’s the diffence?

As far as I am concerned Roman Catholics can do what they want. Yet you want to shut me down.


9 posted on 03/22/2014 6:31:19 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Lou Budvis

BS. Someone I dearly love was briefly in a group that was borderline cultic. It hurt him. Getting him out was all about caring about and criticizing what other people were thinking and teaching. I care that my loved ones don’t get involved with nonsense and is my FREEdom to criticize what I believe will be harmful to them and to others.

The RC/Protestant debate here is not exactly the same thing, but it too is a worthy exercise of freedom. Both sides see this as a struggle that has eternal consequences to precious human souls. Like Paul suggests,, some argue for lower motives, but all in all, as long as somewhere in the mix people get to hear the Gospel, and get to see the error of falsehoods, then it is a benefit to have these discussions, and absolutely one of the best ways to use the freedom God has given us here in this country. We should be enjoying and making full use of it while there’s still light in the sky, because nighttime is coming.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 6:41:00 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Lou Budvis
I am just tired of people saying that they believe in freedom, when in reality, they don’t believe in it at all. Only totalitarians concern themselves with what people think as opposed to what they actually do.

That is a valid position politically; however, religion concerns itself with the actual properties of nature, such as whether gravity exists or not, and whether you will be safe walking on a floor and not crash through the ceiling or fall through to the basement because of the properties of gravity and physics.

These and other more spiritual and subtle considerations are among the basics of the Truth claims of religion -- which concerns what and what cannot legitimately be considered Absolute, so that you can at least orient yourself to your human existence in relation to nature, or God, or however you conceive your Higher Power. Even if you believe you have no Higher Power, at least concede that you have gravity, and that it is a force largely beyond your control.

64 posted on 03/22/2014 10:09:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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