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THE PROTESTANT’S DILEMMA BY DEVIN ROSE: A REVIEW
Just a writer, who refuses to typecast his blog by giving it a title ^ | March 18, 2014 | Scott Eric Alt

Posted on 03/19/2014 1:32:10 PM PDT by rwa265

If a Protes­tant look­ing into the claims of Catholi­cism were to ask me, “What one book should I read, where I can find a quick answer to any ques­tion I have?” I would tell him to read Devin Rose’s new book The Protestant’s Dilemma. I would also rec­om­mend this book to Protes­tant apol­o­gists, even those of many years, well-skilled in polemics. It will remind them of the heavy bur­den of proof they face, and the weak­ness of their posi­tion on point after point. The truth may set them free and bring them home too. (It has happened.)

All this may seem like over­state­ment — the oblig­a­tory praise from one Catholic blog­ger to another. But it is not.

Con­sider first the range of issues this book takes up. There are thirty-six chap­ters, each one on a dif­fer­ent topic, from the papacy to sola scrip­tura, from the canon of the Bible to Pur­ga­tory, from con­fes­sion to Eucharist to infant bap­tism. If some­thing about the Catholic Church trou­bles you, this book has the answer. If you think you have found the point on which Catholi­cism fails, this book will show you why it is one more point upon which Protes­tantism fails.

Con­sider also the brevity. The book is just over 200 pages long, which means that Mr. Rose’s answers get to the root of the ques­tion with­out a knot of aca­d­e­mic detail. It is harder to do than it might seem. This is the book of a man who has spent a long time study­ing the ques­tions that divide Protes­tants and Catholics, and who knows how to present his case in a way that is easy for any­one to under­stand. At the same time, the book is use­ful for the pro­fes­sional apol­o­gist, for it recalls his mind to the basics.

(Excerpt) Read more at scottericalt.com ...


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To: daniel1212
Thus that would until he met a Prahlad Jani, who claims that he did not speak for a period of 45 years, nor has eaten or drank for 70 years, but has gained his sustenance from the [invisible] nectar that filters down through a hole in his palate.

Anyone who actually BELIEVES this must surely have a hole somewhere!

561 posted on 03/23/2014 11:29:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

There seems to be a little confusion over just who made whom, doesn’t there?


562 posted on 03/23/2014 11:30:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: daniel1212
You mean Founders never were moved by considerations of perception in saying things like, “ like “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen Muslims..” - Treaty of Tripoli


 
 
 
Mayflower Compact
 
In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God, of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, King, defender of the Faith, etc.

Having undertaken, for the Glory of God, and advancements of the Christian faith and honor of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the Northern parts of Virginia, do by these presents, solemnly and mutually, in the presence of God, and one another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil body politic; for our better ordering, and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal laws, ordinances, acts, constitutions, and offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience.In witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France, and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth, 1620.

 
 
 

563 posted on 03/23/2014 11:30:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

I guess you have nothing to give.


564 posted on 03/23/2014 11:31:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
What protestant defined the Trinity, What protestant defined the incarnation?



565 posted on 03/23/2014 11:34:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Arrogance seems to have NO boundary.

On top of stupidity...What a statement, eh??? WE MADE GOD WHAT HE IS!!!

566 posted on 03/23/2014 11:47:35 AM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: metmom
Making it personal is the knee jerk, default answer when you’ve made a point that can’t be refuted. I chalk it up as a win.

Thank you for the sage advice, since you have not been able to tell me the meaning of AFSD, I will chalk that up as a humongous win.

567 posted on 03/23/2014 11:47:41 AM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: Iscool
This has nothing to do with me changing my mind...

It has everything to do with that, as a mater of fact that is the only thing it has to do with. Because unless there is even a possibility it is simply Matthew 7:6.

568 posted on 03/23/2014 11:50:18 AM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: Iscool

Keep telling yourself that little man, keep telling yourself that.


569 posted on 03/23/2014 11:51:21 AM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: verga; metmom; Iscool
verga's post #567: Making it personal is the knee jerk, default answer when you’ve made a point that can’t be refuted.
verga's Post #569: Keep telling yourself that little man, keep telling yourself that.

I'd chalk that up as a win, Iscool.

570 posted on 03/23/2014 11:57:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: CynicalBear

You see, the problem arises when someone teaches something the apostles didn’t teach.


That is what you see is the problem. As others see it, the problem arises when someone does not teach something that the apostles did teach.

I don’t see either as being a problem.

As the son, brother, cousin, uncle, and good friend of Methodists, Evangelicals, Baptists, Lutherans, and members of other Christian religions, I fully respect their belief that the teachings found in scriptures are sufficient to attain eternal salvation.

But as a Catholic, I believe that many teachings were handed down from Jesus through the apostles and St. Paul by word of mouth, and that these oral teachings make up the Tradition of the Catholic Church.

What I see as a huge problem is the animosity that is shown on the Religion forum. The name calling, the cat fighting, the lack of respect shown for fellow Christians who believe differently, the assetion by one Christian that another Christian is going to hell.

Catholics, remember that the Catechism says that those followers of Christ who came out of the Reformation have the right to be called Christians and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord.

Those of you that believe Catholics are not preaching the gospel that you preach, and are idolators, fine. Consider us to be accursed if that is what you feel you must do. Don’t associate with us, don’t eat with us, don’t wish us God speed, expel us from your midst. But take care not to judge us, lest you jeopardize the salvation of your own soul. Paul tells us in 1 Corinthians 5 that God will judge those outside.

As for me, I will continue to pray for all of you and take consolation in the words of St. Paul to the Romans:

“Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access [by faith] to this grace in which we stand, and we boast in hope of the glory of God. Not only that, but we even boast of our afflictions, knowing that affliction produces endurance, and endurance, proven character, and proven character, hope, and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out into our hearts through the holy Spirit that has been given to us.

“For Christ, while we were still helpless, yet died at the appointed time for the ungodly. Indeed, only with difficulty does one die for a just person, though perhaps for a good person one might even find courage to die. But God proves his love for us in that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.”


571 posted on 03/23/2014 12:18:07 PM PDT by rwa265
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To: Alex Murphy
verga's post #567: Making it personal is the knee jerk, default answer when you’ve made a point that can’t be refuted.

Nice try but that was a copy of Metmom's original post 338.

I will take that win as well

572 posted on 03/23/2014 12:48:14 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: Elsie

It is amazing how ignorant a protestant can be regarding the Catholic Church.

You deny the continuity of the papacy, and still complain when the Popes are elected and have hands laid upon them by Cardinals who were elected and have hand laid on them by Popes who were earlier elected and have had hand laid upon by Cardinals......etc ......etc in a continuous line from Peter.

AMDG


573 posted on 03/23/2014 12:54:38 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
It is amazing how ignorant a protestant can be regarding the Catholic Church.

If you stick around long enough you will cease to be amazed, or at least be less amazed. You will also note that the most ignorant are those that were Catholic, or claim to have been Catholic at some point in their lives.

574 posted on 03/23/2014 1:44:34 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: LurkingSince'98; All
Why should anyone be interested in a failed Protestant's rationalization for why he decided to go Catholic? Every one of his "conclusions" can be easily disputed and have been on this thread. For all the whining and bewailing Catholics express against "Protestants" who bash them - for no reason, they claim - you only have to look at the ones who post these threads and who deliberately provoke the strong reaction they receive.

How many threads do "Protestants" post regularly that can be categorized as intentionally provocative against Catholics? No contest, if you ask me. The question is WHY? Why do Catholics on Free Republic delight in causing dissension and discord? Is their faith so fragile that they have to belittle others in order to feel superior? If you start a destructive fire, don't be surprised when someone comes along and tries to put it out. Mr. Rose, by writing his little book, is attempting to soothe the doubts he STILL has over leaving.

575 posted on 03/23/2014 2:50:28 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: rwa265; CynicalBear
But as a Catholic, I believe that many teachings were handed down from Jesus through the apostles and St. Paul by word of mouth, and that these oral teachings make up the Tradition of the Catholic Church.

Just what are those traditions Paul was referring to that he handed down that we are to keep that were not included in Scripture?

How do you know?

How do you know they’re from the apostles, Paul in particular?

How do you know they’ve been passed down faithfully?

What is your source for verifying all of the above?

Please provide the sources for verification purposes.

576 posted on 03/23/2014 2:57:38 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: verga; metmom

Proverbs 23:9


577 posted on 03/23/2014 3:10:03 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: rwa265
>> That is what you see is the problem.<<

Um, yeah! When the Holy Spirit inspired word of God said that anything other than what the apostles teach is to be considered “accursed” I take that seriously.

>> As others see it, the problem arises when someone does not teach something that the apostles did teach.<<

Yep! I believe that also.

>> I don’t see either as being a problem.<<

Well, then just thow out scripture and make up whatever you want. Rely on what someone tells you that was passed down by word of mouth through thousands of years with hopefully no changes. If that is what your religion is based on we are not talking about the same God anyway so not much sense in continuing. >> But as a Catholic, I believe that many teachings were handed down from Jesus through the apostles and St. Paul by word of mouth, and that these oral teachings make up the Tradition of the Catholic Church.<<

578 posted on 03/23/2014 3:13:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: boatbums; metmom
Proverbs 23:9

Exactly why I asked if the truth of Catholic teaching would change protestant hearts or minds. Most of you have shown a inability/ unwillingness to accept the truth.

579 posted on 03/23/2014 3:21:10 PM PDT by verga (Poor spiritual health is often manifested with poor physical health.)
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To: rwa265
What I see as a huge problem is the animosity that is shown on the Religion forum. The name calling, the cat fighting, the lack of respect shown for fellow Christians who believe differently, the assetion by one Christian that another Christian is going to hell.

Yet YOU posted this very thread extolling a former "Protestant" leaving his denomination and becoming a Roman Catholic and then writing a book designed to provoke Protestants by claiming he has determined they have a "dilemma" in the things they believe. Only you know your motive for doing so, but, if you already bemoan the "animosity" that pops up on threads like this, then WHY did you post it?

580 posted on 03/23/2014 3:24:31 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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