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To: PhilipFreneau

“Coming with clouds,” in one manner or another, is old testament imagery for coming in judgment or power.


Yet, we also have the verses from Acts 1:9-11 that state Jesus was taken to heaven on a literal cloud, and that he will return in the same way, so there is no justification for you trying to interpret it symbolically, other than to twist the meaning of the Bible to fit your own ideas:

“9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.

10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;

11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”


133 posted on 03/17/2014 6:48:03 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
>> other than to twist the meaning of the Bible to fit your own ideas:<<

That’s what Preterists do. They have to in order for their isogesis to work. They allegorize so much of scripture as to make the entirety of it meaningless.

134 posted on 03/17/2014 6:58:53 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Boogieman

>>>Yet, we also have the verses from Acts 1:9-11 that state Jesus was taken to heaven on a literal cloud, and that he will return in the same way, so there is no justification for you trying to interpret it symbolically, other than to twist the meaning of the Bible to fit your own ideas:<<<

Why don’t you compare Acts 1:9-11 to Revelation 1:7 and explain to our eager ears how “every eye will see him!”

Philip


138 posted on 03/17/2014 10:11:09 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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