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Would Jesus Approve of SI’s Swimsuit Issue?
The Christian Diarist ^ | February 16, 2014 | JP

Posted on 02/16/2014 2:15:20 PM PST by CHRISTIAN DIARIST

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To: yldstrk
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum. The main guideline here is to "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal." Discuss the message, not the messenger.

Reading minds, attributing motives and making the thread "about" another Freeper individually are all forms of "making it personal."

Accusing another Freeper on the RF of being immature or having a shallow faith are both "making it personal."

81 posted on 02/17/2014 7:22:20 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

And this post?

“eah that’s what I thought...Let me ask you something... when you stand up in the market square and call things Sexualized Garbage, Im curious how you are displaying the Love of Christ by doing that? When the woman caught in adultery was brought before Christ did he stand up and scream at her and what she did? Or was his response Mercy and Love? Do any of those models, photographers, editors, printers, advertisers etc have a relationship where they want to express a purity in their lives by not producing photos like that? Er... no... So how specifically will standing up and condemning them call them into a relationship of Christ? Christ is not obsessed with Sin. He already paid for it in full....”

By your standard you should delete it


82 posted on 02/17/2014 7:46:41 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Questions are rarely "making it personal."

For instance, "Are you a heretic?" is not making it personal whereas "You are a heretic" is making it personal.

83 posted on 02/17/2014 7:55:53 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

Oh so I could have said are you immature?


84 posted on 02/17/2014 7:56:37 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Yes, and your correspondent could have asked if your faith is shallow.


85 posted on 02/17/2014 8:00:03 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: yldstrk
I should add though, that if the questions back and forth overwhelm the thread so that it is "about" the individual Freepers than that would be "making it personal" - it would be moving the thread away from the issues.
86 posted on 02/17/2014 8:03:07 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

oh my


87 posted on 02/17/2014 8:16:05 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: BlueDragon
not getting carried away with their little powers, but just being cool; Now what all of that has to do with the forum here --- Free, baby! Rent Free!

FWIW I've got so much real estate going now that I've decided to start subletting. That's why I'm the King, baby!

King Of The Mods

88 posted on 02/17/2014 8:36:02 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: yldstrk; Alex Murphy; Religion Moderator

Senator, I served with the jello sheriff, I knew the jello sheriff, the jello sheriff was a friend of mine...so I must ask ----> who made you the jello sheriff, of the house?

89 posted on 02/17/2014 9:00:48 PM PST by BlueDragon (gonna' change my name to Nobody, then run for public office.)
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To: CPONav

Yes it is different. This was a case of public indecency. The restaurant personnel were mortified. The argument is if you dont want it dont look. Kinda difficult in todays society when all kinds of indecency are so common that soft core porn can be seen at 6 pm on the wall of a family restaurant where they were just playing the news. There is and should be a standard for what is considered decent in public. If people want to look at it they should go look for it. Dont assault families with it at every turn. Its in commercials, on billboards, on the news, in the mall, in the checkout lane at the store. Look around. As a mom trying to raise a son who views women as more than objects for sexual gratification, it is maddening. As a mom raising daughters to view themselves as more than objects, it is maddening. I never said they didnt have the right to print it. Just dont appreciate seeing it everywhere.


90 posted on 02/17/2014 11:02:12 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Do you feel that having the 10 Commandments or a Bible displayed in a public place is acceptable? What about a Nativity Display at the local school?

The argument that you make against the SI cover is EXACTLY the same argument that people make regarting public displays of Christianity.


91 posted on 02/18/2014 7:48:31 AM PST by CPONav
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92 posted on 02/18/2014 7:52:16 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: CPONav

I am sorry but there is no way you can’t equate words or a Christmas display with public nudity.


93 posted on 02/18/2014 8:39:02 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Don’t apologize, just understand that your definition of obscene differs from another person’s.
Be realistic as well. The girls on the cover of SI were not and are not nude. Their butt cheeks were showing just as the girls at a public beach display.


94 posted on 02/18/2014 10:14:17 AM PST by CPONav
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To: CPONav

They were all topless and the girl on the left had her breast showing. I think we can all agree that nudity is indecent for public.


95 posted on 02/18/2014 2:53:03 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

With one of the women there was but a hint of the underslope of her bosom. No breast aureoles were visible on any of the three. The entire toute ensemble was tasteful and understated.

I am still unable to apply the word `indecent’ to the female bosom. Not in such circumstances as these.

`Grizzard’s prayer’ applies here. The beauty of a woman’s figure is G-d given and worthy of thanks & celebration by His humble faithful.


96 posted on 02/18/2014 8:07:00 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: CPONav

Your approach sounds familiar ... like the one used to defend abortion on demand, or the normalizing of sexual degeneracy. When a culture loses its taboo structure it has uncovered its demise.


97 posted on 02/18/2014 8:15:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: GeronL

And you know this how?:)


98 posted on 02/18/2014 9:33:23 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Not a secret


99 posted on 02/18/2014 9:33:50 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: elcid1970

We will have to disagree. I take the account of Genesis and its assessment of nakedness over Grizzards’s prayer. I agree that nakedness of the human body is beautiful but in its proper place. Public is not the proper place.


100 posted on 02/19/2014 10:00:47 AM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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