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To: wheat_grinder; All
Well the article is spot on with that statement. Even a brief look into church history will reveal how Constantine and the Roman church made many revisions to the Messiahs message just 300 years after His ministry.

Well, sure it's easy to side with the Mormons if you blame Rome from the get-go.

The problem is that this writer -- and the Mormon church -- claims that the complete apostasy took place "not long after its formation" (meaning Jesus jumpstarting His Church).

(Elsewhere the Mormon church claims this occurred when the apostles had died -- so IoW, early in the 2nd century after John died)

The problem -- for your claim is -- that "The first bishop to claim primacy in writing was Pope Stephen I (254-257) Primacy of the Bishop of Rome

IoW, Rome didn't really "rule" with much of an authoritative hand -- other than Victor, bishop of Rome, attempting to end a controversy toward the end of the 2nd century.

So you blame Rome...but the Mormon church blames the church as well as those OTHER than the Rome-based leaders.

So...classic fail on your part history-wise -- to link up the two...

7 posted on 01/16/2014 6:37:40 AM PST by Colofornian
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8 posted on 01/16/2014 7:36:12 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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"In fact, it is the apostasy of early Christianity which creates the very need for the restored Latter-day Saint faith: if there had not been an apostasy, there would have been no need for a restoration. Latter-day Saint theology asserts...the church of Jesus and his apostles came to an end...the doctrines which its inspired leaders taught were corrupted and changed."

All non-Catholic/Orthodox Christian churches teach this, do they not?

12 posted on 01/16/2014 10:31:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Colofornian

Nope not classic fail on my part. Classic fail on yours for ignoring my suggestion to do your own research and leave bias out.
The part of the article I quoted was the only one I agreed with. I am not mormon.
Since the council of Nicea onward the “Church” has added unto the gospel message. Don’t believe my words, believe the Messiah’s.


34 posted on 01/17/2014 5:39:44 AM PST by wheat_grinder
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