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To: restornu; CynicalBear; Elsie; All
The LDS are of the Tribe of Joseph

Sorry, Restornu...you can't even convince other Mormons with this nonsense, let alone non-Mormons!

Mormon Rachel Bruner:

"In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints every person is a descendant of Abraham through one of the twelve tribes of Israel, either by blood or through adoption, and a member's lineage is declared in their patriarchal blessing. A huge percentage of members are from Ephraim and Manasseh (the tribes chosen to preach the gospel to the world) but there are members around the world who are from the other tribes."
Poll: Which Tribe of Israel Are You From?

Sorry, but many Mormons do not claim to be from "the tribe of Joseph"...in their quest to be "literal Zion."

ALL: Mormons may be quite good at genealogy, but what you find when you get beyond a few centuries back is that only royalty tended to keep comprehensive genealogical records...and sorry, but Gutenberg's press wasn't invented til the latter part of the 15th century...and people weren't etching genealogical records in gold...

The overwhelming number of genealogies from antiquity have been lost to time -- and even a high % of those few recorded -- have been jeopardized by the ravages of fire, theft, misplacements, water/floods, natural erosion, and natural disasters.

So even Bruner's claim above -- that ALL Lds genealogy can be traced back to Abraham thru one of the 12 tribes -- is fraught with obvious falsehoods.

CynicalBear, Restornu can't prove she and ALL Mormons are from the "tribe of Joseph" -- unless you want to make it all about the "tribe of Joseph Smith"...of which, yes, they are indeed spiritual descendants.

And, yes, he needs all the spiritual descendants he can get...'cause frankly Emma took all the baby Josephs with her to the non-Salt Lake City Lds clan (Missouri-based Reorganized Church of LDS, which has since changed its name).

Of course all of this presents a knotty problem for Mormon leaders & Mormon apologists.

Lds leaders have made the study of Lds 10th prophet Joseph Fielding Smith their "theme" curricula study throughout 2014. He was Joseph Smith's grand nephew and wrote a 5-volume series published by Deseret Book Publishing entitled Answers to Gospel Questions (FAQ style).

Apparently, a Jehovah's Witness had visited a Mormon and told them that polygamy was against the Book of Mormon, citing the Book of Jacob. In volume 4, chapter 42 (1963/1979), Joseph Fielding Smith takes on THIS question related to the earliest polygamy practiced by Joseph Smith and the earliest Mormons...claiming that because Jacob 2:30 cites "raising up need" as an exception to the prohibition vs. polygamy, his grand uncle was justified.

The problem was, and I highlight how problematic this was here, Smith failed to raise up any other children with his 26 or so additional wives (besides possibly one miscarried one).

655 posted on 01/16/2014 1:41:13 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

The Book of Mormon is the record of Joseph

The Patriarchal Blessing is from Abraham


659 posted on 01/16/2014 2:06:30 PM PST by restornu
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To: Colofornian
>> CynicalBear, Restornu can't prove she and ALL Mormons are from the "tribe of Joseph"<<

I have to applaud you extensive work exposing the Mormon religion for the false cult it is. Your dedication and obvious hard work and research is truly appreciated. It’s amazing how God has drawn different people to different tasks. You have answered the call admirably. I'm sure I'm joined by many others when I say a hearfelt thank you. God is surely blessing your efforts

662 posted on 01/16/2014 2:22:09 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: All
(I had a typo in 2nd to last graph here): "raising up seed" is the word...not "need")
672 posted on 01/16/2014 3:19:23 PM PST by Colofornian (Hmm...since Smith imported French word adieu into Book of Mormon pre-development, why not ce la vie?)
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