Posted on 01/12/2014 5:53:46 AM PST by knarf
You don't need a priest, or sacraments, or a "church", or a denomination, or charismatic 'gifts' or baptism or hierarchal permission, sanction nor absolution ...
This spring, if my memory is correct, there is suppose to be a movie version of the famous book “Heaven is for Real” about the little boy who has an NDE and goes to Heaven for a little while.
As a Evangelical Protestant Christian?
So, sins against the Holy Spirit until the moment they die, and then, repenting, they can be saved? Is that what you are saying?
I always thought these sins against the Holy Spirit were the unforgivable sins.
Well is not “once saved, always saved” a big thing among the Evangelical Christians? Just asking.
For those like NELSON111 and NKP_Vet who engage in this type of insulting, mocking, and twisting of the scriptures are the ones who are defined above.
I would not want to be them on the day of Judgement.
“Heaven is for Real”
Have you ever heard of an “near death experence” or NDE? That is what the kid had. Plus also too, you know where Jesus stands in regards to little children.
The “Heaven is for Real” book was written by the boy’s father, a Christian minister.
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Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research - A neurosurgeon’s perspective
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“However, by reading the many, many stories from all ages, nationalities, walks of life and belief, especially the stories of hell and purgatory, I’ve come to the belief beyond faith I’ve been searching for. “
I totally agree. I have often said that the Near Death Experience is to provide us a taste of the carrot that is dangled on the stick in front of us and then we are sent back into our bodies, knowing what we are striving for with the knowledge that we can have it while we are still in our physical bodies.
Next month I am doing a program on the Tibetan Book of the Dead. I am amazed at how accurate it is to the real experience and totally compatible with the Bible.
My NDE was in 1988 during a bout with meningitis. Odd thing is, I never totally came back into my body. It changed my soul forever by making Jesus’ teachings experiential rather than just theoretical. It is far better to experience and know for sure rather than just believe based upon blind faith.
If you are interested in learning more about NDE experiences, please let me know. I can point you in the direction of many excellent experiencers.
Two of the best experiences currently popular are Anita Moorjani & Dr. Mary Neal. Both are absolutely true experiences from their heart, not stories from their head as other authors use.
I can tell the difference whenever I am near a true experiencer as the experience is at a high level where it surpasses time and is always in the current, not like a memory recalled from the past.
You list many excellent books. I notice that “Proof of Heaven” is not included. I know the author and give little credibility to his story.
Once again you simply avoid answering my questions, even if its not with one of your two pictures. And what you do post is not even an argument, but merely infers a presumption of Rome that cannot be proved by Scripture.
EPISTLE (Col. 3:12-17) Brethren: Put ye on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, the bowels of mercy, benignity, humility, modesty, patience: Bearing with one another and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another. Even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also. But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of Christ rejoice in your hearts, wherein also you are called in one body: and be ye thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you abundantly: in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms, hymns and spiritual canticles, singing in grace in your hearts to God. All whatsoever you do in word or in work, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
That was a diversion from the answering the questions i asked in response to posting texts that taken literally cannot mean what the literalism means. Perhaps you would be the first RC among all those asked previous to this who would forthrighty answer these
Have you ever heard of an “near death experence”
But since God works through different people in different ways ( or at least i believe he does ) and obviously the people who believe them also do, i believe at the best these books are not profitable as a witness.
These experiences are only profitable for the ones involved.
It does not, as the only pastoral hierarchy was that of the apostles and bishops/elders, that being one office, (Titus 1:5-7) as pastors/shepherds - not the hierarchical system of Rome with its love of various titles and clothing, which befits what the Lord reproved. (Mt. 23:5-9)
Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.” When he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained. .....John 20:21-23
Which does not speak of the RC priesthood, which is not seen, and instead what we see in application is what i described.
But if you want to contend it is the RC priesthood, then since objective examination of Scripture is not your basis for determining doctrinal Truth and assurance, you might state what your basis is.
Then in condescension to me, show in Scripture,
1. Where the Holy Spirit referred to NT pastors as hiereus.
2. That this was due to a unique sacrificial function, as they are shown presiding over the Lord's table, turning bread and wine into human flesh and blood, and giving it to others in order that they may have life in them and eternal life (as other RCs keep quoting me Jn. 6:53,54)
3. And beyond that, that a (conditionally) infallible head and magisterium is necessary to disputably determine what and who is of God, writings and men, so that what it rejects must be rejected.
Why is it that other Christians, do not do it?
This begs the question of what this means, and whether Rome is doing it. For not only were there more than the apostles present in Jn. 20:19ff (cf. Lk. 24:13ff), but the application of that is not seen as believers regularly coming to the priests to hear confession, but the bonding and loosing is as after the manner i described.
Which we see in discipline, and praying for healing, deliverance, etc.,, in special cases. And while pastors in evang. type churches do engage in discipline, and pray for the sick as Ja 5 teaches etc. (and which is not sppsd to be a precursor of death), other believers are to do so also.
But none of us sees the manner of power in which the apostles did so, though i do not exclude such manner of working.
Do you belong to a belief system that has a board that makes a list of who is “worthy” and send it to God so He knows who to bring into his kingdom?
...his soul continues to fry in hell...Same thing with the rest of the death row conversions.
Well which is it, "the rest of the death row conversions" or the one exception? Can't be both...Make sure God gets the right instructions.
Thank God He was able to read hearts with out help from a sinner back in the days of Paul's conversion or I'm sure the recommendation to send Paul to hell would have been sent to God.
Read the Gospel of John with guidance from the Holy Spirit and you can be saved which will give you an understanding of the Mind of Christ.
I was not being crypyic, I wasn't summerizing his court record ... I stated simply he had done something to put him on the cross.
I didn't speculate what It mightr have been ... it just ... WAS.
THEN, you go on to describe his words as if they were a concious work for his salvation ... which, not only did I not say nor imply ... it is not stated nor implied in the scriptures.
But the thief on the Cross did something.
First, he rebuked his fellow criminal — a good thing to do.
Secondly, he asked for Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom that day.
He didn’t just hang there and do nothing.....he did two very important things.
In other words, Jesus can’t do all your work for you! ,p>
LOL! Time to always be thinking of eternal life.
**summarizing**
Guess this happened during the summer and not during the winter.
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