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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: Kevmo
Sounds like a financial commitment.

That could be it, for a MORMON MUST have a current TR at the moment of death; or else he/she gets stuck for Eternity NOT in god the Fathers presence; but on Level Two with CHRISTIANS!! (spit)



 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

341 posted on 01/02/2014 7:51:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gene Eric

NOW we’ll argue about just what is ‘beneficial’ and what is ‘good faith’!


342 posted on 01/02/2014 7:52:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; DouglasKC

He does not mean “Yes, Jesus is the second member of the Trinity,”
***Douglas, do you mean “Yes, Jesus is the second member of the Trinity”?

he means “Jesus is one of many potential God entities, who are ‘one’ God by being in a covenant with each other, but not because they are a Trinity.”
***Douglas, is this what you mean?

The question isn’t a matter of “Do you believe Jesus is God?” It’s a matter of “Do you believe that you will become a God by joining the God Family?”
***Is that how you see it, DouglasKC? It would sure seem that your earlier responses are aimed at spiritual misdirection from your primary purpose of promoting an antitrinitarian viewpoint. Such a viewpoint is properly labelled as a heresy and condemned by Jesus as coming from ‘sons of satan’. I do not envy you if you’re promoting such a heres, but in the same breath it would appear that YOU are a Ravenous Wolf on Free Republic. So... let’s hear it...


343 posted on 01/02/2014 7:54:59 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: DouglasKC

Kevmo: So, DouglasKC... is Jesus God (Jehovah) Himself?

DKC: Of course he is. Do you believe that too?
***Yes I do. Jesus is God (Jehovah) Himself. He isn’t “a”
god like part of a pantheon, he isn’t “the god of this world” like the mormons believe and hope to become a god some day themselves. He is part of the triune GodHead. Jesus, God-the-Father, the Holy Spirit, 3 personalities in One God.

I think you’ve just been agreeing/going along so that you can hide your heretical anti-trinitarian belief system. Such actions are what “Ravenous Wolves of Free Republic” do, rather than just be straightforward with their belief systems.


344 posted on 01/02/2014 7:59:41 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sounds like a big, steaming pile. Thanks again for the heads up.


345 posted on 01/02/2014 8:03:21 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Elsie; chae

The article was about her saying she believed in her version of God, and she didn’t believe in hell.

Then she’s a MORMON!
_______________________________________

The Mormons don’t believe in the Lake of Fire either..


346 posted on 01/02/2014 8:06:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Again, be careful with this,
***Wow. No wonder Jesus calls false teachers ‘sons of satan’. No doubt such heretics think we should be soft & fluffy with them. Jesus wasn’t. They hold us to a higher standard than they hold the God of the Universe Who was clad in human flesh.


347 posted on 01/02/2014 8:07:06 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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If this troll wasn’t in the habit of stalking me from thread to thread I might be more favorably inclined to follow this point.


348 posted on 01/02/2014 8:10:04 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Tennessee Nana

But my issue was that people weren’t saying “She’s a Mormon” it was all “She’s a skank, she’s a slut” things of that nature.


349 posted on 01/02/2014 8:10:52 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: DouglasKC

Kevmo: Then all of this anti-trinitarian Universal Church of God stuff is baloney?

I don’t even know where to start to separate the wheat from the chaff
***I’m in the process of separating the wheat from the chaff and it would appear you are spreading anti-trinitarian heretical beliefs on Free Republic. You even acknowledge that Jesus is God Himself, so it puts you in a relatively rarified atmosphere of especially tricky heretics.


350 posted on 01/02/2014 8:13:03 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
I don’t even know where to start to separate the wheat from the chaff ***I’m in the process of separating the wheat from the chaff and it would appear you are spreading anti-trinitarian heretical beliefs on Free Republic. You even acknowledge that Jesus is God Himself, so it puts you in a relatively rarified atmosphere of especially tricky heretics.

Oh boy. Have a great night.

351 posted on 01/02/2014 8:15:39 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Salvation

Catholics are not victims, but in fact, have been the leaders against abortion, euthanasia, contraception, embryonic stem cell research, same-sex marriage and on and on.
________________________________________________

while the Mormons haven’t fought against those evils..

Note: The takeover of the Prop 8 resolution in CA by the Mormons in 2008 was not a stand against same sex marriage it was busy work and a stand against helping the apostate John McCain...

Notice how involved the Mormons got in 2012 for one of their own ???

and one who oh noez just happened to be the father of same sex marriage in the US while he was gov of MASS

LOL

cant you say hypocritical ???

I just knew that you could...


352 posted on 01/02/2014 8:19:21 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DouglasKC

How many gods are there in your pantheon?


354 posted on 01/02/2014 8:24:25 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Revolting cat!

Gentlemen have been known to go to Hell...


355 posted on 01/02/2014 8:25:35 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: DouglasKC

So, who are the “ravenous wolves of FR”? Is it trinitarians? Are you pushing an anti-trinitarian heresy onto FR and asking for better treatment for false teachers than Christ Himself gave such people?


356 posted on 01/02/2014 8:25:41 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

So, who are the “ravenous wolves of FR”?

Im kinda hungry


357 posted on 01/02/2014 8:29:24 PM PST by woofie
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To: Tennessee Nana

Got connections there that you know this?


358 posted on 01/02/2014 8:30:11 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yeppers...

The LORD Jesus Christ for one...


359 posted on 01/02/2014 8:35:31 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Kevmo: “So, DouglasKC... is Jesus God (Jehovah) Himself?”

GPH: Again, be careful with this, because he will answer “yes,”
***Wow. There is some real spiritual retribution to be paid upon such deceitful and antichristian activity.


360 posted on 01/02/2014 8:37:14 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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