How Do You Know The Torah is True?

TorahCafe.com ^ | Dec 2012 | Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen

[Phinneous]

Careful, ... Do u want to start a no-holds-barred Christian steel cage match? :)

So consider the Jews’ perspective: there is Torah and there is no NT. What do the Jewish sources say? Are you Jewish? (if so find your local Chabad house, www.chabad.org) “Elohim” is the gematria (numerology-value) of the Hebrew word hateva, nature. Elohim is the power of G-d as enclothed in natural forces. (The libs are onto something with mother Gaia and they don’t even know it.) additionally Elohim is a pluralistic force of G-d as expressed in his Five Gevurot, restrictive or, ‘negative’ powers (restriction, severity, punishment, the angel Gabriel gavri - El, the strong one of G-d, if you speaka dee eebrew... Look at that, one of your rare examples of El.) There are more explanations but suffice it to say you’re not bringing any innovation to Jews. Judaism categorically rejects and is in no way related to a trinity, G-d forbid.

Now, it is true that ‘expressionS’ of G-d sounds perilously close to plurality, but that is part of the reason even amongst ourselves, Jews have not, until these modern generations, taught these Kabbalastic ideas of how G-d expresses Himself, so-to-speak.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Chrstianity is not and never was based on the Hebrew Bible. It is based on the "new testament" which chrstians accept prior to the "old." In fact, they only accept the "old" on the authority of the "new." Naturally then then accept without question the "new testament's" chrstological interpretation of the "old." But why accept the "new testament" to begin with? No chrstian has ever come up with a reason (other than Catholics/Orthodox who accept it because their church tells them to, but why do they accept the authority of their church?). In other words, chrstianity is based on nothing but pure fideism. It is belief without any rational ground or foundation whatsoever.

Jews never accepted the Torah because J*sus told them to a thousand years after they received it or because it was supposed to "lead them to chrst." They accepted it from G-d Himself at Mt. Sinai because they were commanded to accept it. People who only accept it second hand on the authority of another religion have no business telling Jews what it "really means." But try getting these points into a chrstian's head. He doesn't even hear them.

As for a plurality of "expressions," it sounds like you are getting close to an ancient chrstian heresy known as "modalism," though you may be one of those "wipe the slate clean and read the bible for the first time" people who won't care about that.