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To: daniel1212

So one more time. And once more, I could give a rats ass what some skewed poll says. Not my fault that the Catholic Church is full of hypocrites (like any protestant denomination). The teachings of the Catechism of the Catholic Church is what it’s all about. Not the individual desires of anyone.

What evangelical “church” believes in NO ABORITON OF ANY KIND, FOR ANY REASON. NO WOMEN PREACHERS, AND WILL NOT ORDAIN OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL MEN.

And if you think the media that constantly blasts the Catholic Church for not ordaining women, their stance on abortion, and no homosexual clergy and no same-sex “marriage”, thinks the Catholic Church is liberal you need a reality check. Your hated of the Catholic Church clouds reality.

Lastly, ignoring the morons that call themselves Catholic and voted for Obama, the number of devout practicing Catholics that abide by their church’s teachings, voted for Romney 60% to 42 for Obama. The number of Catholics that voted for the conservative candidate dwarfs any protestant denomination in the country.

But one more thing before I go. Catholic Charities is the biggest faith based charity in the United States. And the Knights of Columbus does more than any protestant fraternal organization. Would you like for me to tell you how many Catholic hospitals there are in the United States. Catholics started the first hospitals in the country. I could go on, but I’m getting tired.


118 posted on 12/03/2013 7:04:15 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
What evangelical “church” believes in NO ABORITON OF ANY KIND, FOR ANY REASON. NO WOMEN PREACHERS, AND WILL NOT ORDAIN OPENLY HOMOSEXUAL MEN.I don't know of any evangelical body of believers who condone:

1) Abortion,

2) Women pastor-teachers. or

3) Ordination of homosexuals.

Evangelism is a type of spiritual gift of communication given to some believers by God the Holy Spirit to communicate His Word to unbelievers.

A similar spiritual gift is given to others to communicate His Word to believers, also known as the gift of pastor-teacher.

Where described in the New Testament, both gifts are only indicated as being given to men. Ordination by a group of believers doesn't confer these spiritual gifts to another believer anymore than voting on a person's sainthood can confer salvation. These are still the domain and reign of God Himself, not humanity.

In regards to homosexuality, as with sodomy and effeminate behavior, we also understand such persons will not inherit the kingdom of God (1Cor 6:9).

Perhaps as fellow believers in Christ we can agree to place Christ before any group of believers and rely on Him before we rely on other institutions or upon provision made by human good instead of what He provides by Divine Good.

123 posted on 12/04/2013 2:36:28 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: NKP_Vet; CynicalBear
So one more time. And once more, I could give a rats ass what some skewed poll says.

Of course you must dismiss it, as devoted RCs must reject all such evidence that impugns Rome. But I think you evidence you do care, by resorting to the typical damage control of impugning the credibility of the polls.

As long as Rome overall treats as members those whom you exclude as being so, then it is your assertions that are "skewed."

What evangelical “church” believes in NO...

Not Rome, as it is the kind of church that ignores that what one does constitutes what they really believe, and like the Pharisees, "they say, and do not," (Matthew 23:3) but treat even known public liberals as members in life and in death. In so doing she provides the interpretation of what she means by her teachings.

Meanwhile, what evangelical churches actually teach is seen by evangelicals being overall far less liberal and far more conservative and unified in moral views than Catholics.

However, such preach Christ, not a church as you must, and thus it is you whom must defend your church, as hard as that is (besides official doctrines) in the light of what it really believes.

And if you think the media that constantly blasts the Catholic Church

Actually, evangelicals have been the greatest threat to their immoral and liberal agenda, versus a church that mouths conservative values but largely fosters the opposite, and thus it has been evangelicalism that has been treated as the greatest threat by both liberals and Rome.

Meanwhile, RCs have well evidenced here that they have a persecution complex, overreacting to even the slightest thing that seems to impugn their fantasy of a holy church, and often unwilling or incapable of objective judgment.

Lastly, ignoring the morons that call themselves Catholic and voted for Obama, the number of devout practicing Catholics that abide by their church’s teachings, voted for Romney 60% to 42 for Obama.

And that is supposed to show Rome as a strongly conservative church? Besides the fact that the church you trumpet does not exist, as it does not treat liberal RCs are morons, a mere 18% difference btwn the two candidates hardly commends "real" RCs as conservative, esp. when one was the most radically liberal Democrat ever to run for the office.

. The number of Catholics that voted for the conservative candidate dwarfs any protestant denomination in the country.

That is deceptive sophistry, as it is not the numerical quantities which matters but percentages, and by using the former you can assert they provided more conservatives vote than any single Prot denomination even if the majority of Catholics voted liberal, as Rome is the single largest denom, even if only constituting about 25% of Americans. . Meanwhile, it was 80% of white evangelicals - those who most esteem Scripture as the Word of God and supreme authority - who voted for Romney, more so than Mormons!

Would you use this same method, versus percentage, for how many priestly pedophiles Rome has provided? Honestly?

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140 posted on 12/04/2013 7:36:17 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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