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To: Arthur McGowan
Poverty, its causes and our responsibility to address it does not involve morals?? Also, your position puts the lay Catholic in a very curious seat of judgement over every Papal statement. Ex-cathedra? nope. Magisterial? nope. Faith/morals? nope. Result? circular file.

I find it fascinating that a Catholic could be comfortable dismissing or even ridiculing a statement by the Vicar of Christ.
107 posted on 12/03/2013 3:14:10 PM PST by armydoc
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To: armydoc

I’m more fascinated that Catholics can continuously defend at the very least potentially heretical statements by the man who is supposed to be Pope.


109 posted on 12/03/2013 4:30:53 PM PST by piusv
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To: armydoc

You have a far too expansive notion of the subject matters that the magisterium of the Church can address with authority.


110 posted on 12/03/2013 4:52:45 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: armydoc
I find it fascinating that a Catholic could be comfortable dismissing or even ridiculing a statement by the Vicar of Christ.

Hee hee...

Watch THIS!!!



Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

125 posted on 12/04/2013 3:26:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: armydoc
Poverty, its causes and our responsibility to address it does not involve morals??

Of course, I said nothing like this.

What I said was that the Pope can hold erroneous opinions about the causes of poverty. And he can publish them. Many Popes have.

134 posted on 12/04/2013 10:25:43 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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