I know its a farce. And if they did the poll during Christmass and Easter just outside the church door I still would not believe it. Why because their are people who never go except on those days for nostalgia only. LOL!!!
Posted on 10/08/2013 2:47:48 AM PDT by ClaytonP
I know. The Catholic Church should be a democracy, and poll its members to adjust its doctrines to reflect the popular moods of the day. Like some of those other cafeteria "churches".
You just keep watching those founts of wisdom, the polls, and hunting them ignorance and bigotry. Saint Peter will one day reward your fanatical dedication.
Oh dear! Paul’s proselyting must have had “a disastrously bad effect on evangelism” when he argued in the Areopagus.
(Acts 17)
What Paul did in the Areopagus wasn't proselytizing in this modern derogated sense. He didn't offer tangible bribes in exchange for conversion (housing, jobs, medical care, food). He didn't recruit children without their parents' knowledge or consent. He didn't use emotional manipulation. That is proselytism. He went to a forum and made a straight, honest and persuasive appeal to his fellow citizens. That is evangelism.
“This poll was done outside the doors after mass?”
They say live interviewers called land lines and cell phones. Data from 392 Catholics. That wouldn’t fill up a moderately large sized church, it is a fraction of a single average parish. Don’t say what areas they called, as far as I can tell.
There’s a reason opinion polling on the ‘gay marriage’ issue usually involves a false bias as pro ‘gay marriage’ that is revealed when actual popular votes are made. It has to do with telling a stranger over the phone what one thinks about gay marriage. The voting booth is a secret ballot.
Freegards
Amen.
That’s why we have dictionaries. What is silly is the blatant attempts to rework the English language to suit religious prejudice.
To proselytize simply means to attempt to change a persons view or opinion whatever the message. To evangelize is to use a specific message to convert or change a view. Six of one, half dozen of another.
They were baptized with water, weren't they???
That's why --- unless your purpose is limited to crossword puzzles --- definitions consisting of more than one word enable you to convey the meaningful differences between proselytism and evangelism, both in word and in practice.
It's like the difference between "cult," "faith," and "church".
Or "teach," "train," and "indoctrinate".
Or any number of similar words with different connotations in different contexts.
So much for the “cafeteria Catholic” excuse.
Quinnipiac
we know that in the end times MOST professed Christians will be fakes embracing sin.
Until recently had Paul tried to preach publicly (proselytize) as he did in the forum he would have been arrested and jailed by Greek authorities at the behest of the Greek Orthodox Church.
“There are different connotations as well as legal distinctions in different countries.”
Of course there is and the connotations are false and an excuse to deny religious freedom to unpopular or minority religious groups.
You'll see the same thing here, when Christians try to protect their kids from indoctrination or proselytization or, excuse me, recruitment by Scientologists or Hare Krishnas("But that's a cult!") or Gay Christan Ministries.
You’re wandering off into the thickets of child recruitment, etc.
The question was the meaning or a common English word and it’s distortion.
I know its a farce. And if they did the poll during Christmass and Easter just outside the church door I still would not believe it. Why because their are people who never go except on those days for nostalgia only. LOL!!!
Does that mean that most Catholic churches are not doing a very good job tending the flocks?More to the point, it means
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