“Even if God says they can? He can’t do that?”
God never said it. The Papists said it, but certainly not God. And why would God say it? So mankind can go to the creation, rather than the creator, despite God’s promise to aid us and be our rock and savior?
Job_15:15 Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight.
“God never said it. The Papists said it, but certainly not God.”
No, no, you miss my point. What I’m getting at is that God could certainly do it if He wanted. It only remains, therefore, to determine if He did want to do that, and did in fact make it so.
“And why would God say it? So mankind can go to the creation, rather than the creator, despite God’s promise to aid us and be our rock and savior?”
Because He is a generous God, who gives with both hands. It’s another blessing, another aid on the road to salvation. Sure, we can go to the Creator, but why would He not give us both? Why restrict and limit the paths that lead to the Creator?
We know (I presume) that God often uses people to achieve His ends. If He uses mere mortals made of clay, why would He not use saints?
The fact is that He does use saints, and you would be able to discover that for yourself were you so inclined.
**God never said it. The Papists said it,**
Strange — God and Jesus Christ changed many people’s names in the Bible
Abram = Abraham
Sarai = Sarah
Jacob = Israel
Simon = Peter
I’m sure there are more.
Puny, the quote you gave us --- Job_15:15 "Behold, he putteth no trust in his saints; yea, the heavens are not clean in his sight"--- is not God or a prophet of God speaking. It is Eliphaz "the Temanite", the first of the three visitors of Job. He keeps telling Job that a good man could never suffer; therefore, since he is suffering, he must be cooncealing a sin. Job keeps protesting that he is not being devious about hidden sins, he is an honest man and yet here he is, suffering.
God declares at the end of the book that Eliphaz believed an erroneous view of divine dispensations. Job offers a sacrifice to God for Eliphaz's error.
The fact is, God often sends creatures --- human and angelic persons -- to have a hand in His work. It happens in every book of the Bible. "Here I am, Lord: send me."
If it were not so, the Bible would be meaningless --- or perhaps, republished as a 3-fold flyer --- because there would be nobody in it who could do anything significant, help anybody, or extend God's work as His ambassadors.
2 Corinthians 5:20
Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, God making His appeal through us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
1 Corinthians 3:9
For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
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