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WHY ARE OUR CATHOLIC LAITY SO ILLITERATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CATHOLIC FAITH
Southern Orders ^ | May 31, 2013 | Fr. Allan J. McDonald

Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer

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To: RPTMS
Technically?

What's this .. ?


61 posted on 05/31/2013 4:01:12 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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To: latina4dubya

Anne Rice and Oscar Wilde also had this same attraction to the outward beauty of Catholicism, but the latter of which is likely still in hell despite his death bed pleas, and Rice ended up leaving once her appreciation for the outward pomp of religion lost to her inward self-righteousness.

Here, I shall give you something so repulsive, so horrible, so nightmarish in its teachings, that if you do not similarly agree, then become a Roman Catholic immediately. But if you are only thinking on the superficial level of Catholicism, without a firm understanding of their teachings (or if you yourself are unfirm in your scripture reading, which I recommend you read everyday), then this will shake you up from your slumber.

I found this work referenced and endorsed by the Pope from the Vatican website. It is all about Mary and the glory of the Rosay. Read it from start to finish:

http://www.rosary-center.org/secret.htm

Here is an excerpt. Take special attention to how they depict God, and how Mary is depicted, and how salvation is accomplished, and compare this to the scripture:

“One day the King fell seriously ill and when he was given up for dead he found himself, in a vision, before the judgement seat of Our Lord. Many devils were there accusing him of all the sins he had committed and Our Lord as Sovereign Judge was just about to condemn him to hell when Our Lady appeared to intercede for him. She called for a pair of scales and had his sins placed in one of the balances whereas she put the rosary that he had always worn on the other scale, together with all the Rosaries that had been said because of his example. It was found that the Rosaries weighed more than his sins.

Looking at him with great kindness Our Lady said: “As a reward for this little honor that you paid me in wearing my Rosary, I have obtained a great grace for you from my Son. Your life will be spared for a few more years. See that you spend these years wisely, and do penance.”

When the King regained consciousness he cried out: “Blessed be the Rosary of the Most Holy Virgin Mary, by which I have been delivered from eternal damnation!”

After he had recovered his health he spent the rest of his life in spreading devotion to the Holy Rosary and said it faithfully every day.

People who love the Blessed Virgin out to follow the example of King Alphonsus and that of the saints whom I have mentioned so that they too may win other souls for the Confraternity of the Holy Rosary. They will then receive great graces on earth and eternal life later on. “They that explain me shall have life everlasting life.” [1] Ecclus. 24:31”


62 posted on 05/31/2013 4:01:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Iscool
They couldn't possibly come out Catholic if they studied and believed the bible

Hmmm ... I have studied the Bible, and did so as a child, and believe it.

I am Catholic.

Your assertion is refuted.

63 posted on 05/31/2013 4:01:44 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MeganC

So, after your children have read the Bible, you don’t ever have to explain what it means?

By reading the Bible without any instruction from you, your children were able to empirically infer the doctrine of, say, the Holy Trinity?


64 posted on 05/31/2013 4:02:13 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Sounds like ... there aren’t any ... you’re all alone


65 posted on 05/31/2013 4:02:13 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I can't prove it, but they're true)
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To: NYer
The biggest failure of the Church over the last 50 years has been poor catechesis. As a result too many Catholics are in fact practicing Protestants believing that they and their consciences can determine Truth and declare their own Salvation if they are a "good person".

Too many parents and too many Faith Formation personnel believe that Confirmation means graduation from catechism and we are losing people at the most critical time in their formation, their teen years. Too often we don't see them again until they are shopping for a parish that will marry them and then not again until Grandma insists that the babies get baptized.

When we look at the religious education materials, as compared to the high school texts and materials we see the equivalent of comic books, concentrating on "hip" imagery and void of any real theological content. Banners and Balloons are not what young adults need when they are first learning about and struggling with the temptations of all of that new hard ware they just grew and the social and peer pressure to take it for a test drive.

66 posted on 05/31/2013 4:03:41 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a book, He left us a Church.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

Make another Catholic friend. That one is too depressing. I can’t imagine which rules you are talking about. Go to Church every Sunday? Well, that’s not too much to ask. Go to confession at least once a year? Well, examining your conscience once a year is not a huge commitment, either. Any Christian would do that.

My Catholic friends and the people I see at Mass are enjoying living their faith. Your friend can do better than she is doing.


67 posted on 05/31/2013 4:03:46 PM PDT by married21
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

To ALL who think that Catholics don’t read the Bible. CATHOLICS WROTE THE BIBLE! If you read the Bible you will become a Christian...if you read the Early Church Fathers you will become a Catholic. May God Bless you all.


68 posted on 05/31/2013 4:04:20 PM PDT by batmast (God Bless...)
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To: livius
One word - well, two word - answer: Vatican II.

One word ... parents. The primary responsibility for passing on the faith, rests with the parents, not VCII, not homiletics. As I pointed out to another poster, it doesn't take a degree in rocket science to pick up a book and instruct children in their faith. I'll bet the parents are more than eager to provide their kids with iPods, iPads, computer, handheld games ... but when it comes to God, they transfer that responsibility to the church.

69 posted on 05/31/2013 4:04:44 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: ArrogantBustard

AB, The Baltimore Catechism is available from several sources, including Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Joseph-Baltimore-Catechism-Catecisms/dp/0899422411/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370041415&sr=1-2&keywords=baltimore+catechisms

It is also available from Seton Homeschooling, and others.

(If that’s why you were asking NY to scan the books...)

Regards,


70 posted on 05/31/2013 4:05:50 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: knarf

It seems pretty straightforward. Go to Mass on Sundays and Holy Days of Obligation. If you miss Mass on one of these days, go to confession. I was being a little facetious in my reply that it’s okay if you don’t feel like doing it, just as long ad you do it.


71 posted on 05/31/2013 4:06:45 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: RPTMS
There’s about 10,000,000 Protestant churches from which to choose!
Perhaps he should just give up after trying this one church? Is that what you are suggesting?
72 posted on 05/31/2013 4:07:36 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I have sexdaily. Oops, I meant dyslexia.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Didn’t read!


73 posted on 05/31/2013 4:08:13 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: TheThirdRuffian
25% of the problem is our local priests confuse socialism with the Gospel to the point I can barely look at them;

It doesn't help that the new Pope is constantly endorsing those socialist views. Whether he means to come of this way or not, Pope Francis sounds like a typical South American populist, left wing Jesuit. The Catholic church could do us all a big favor and stop blathering on about how we can't morally cut this or that social welfare program, and stick to what's actually in the bible. Good grief, it's the very free markets the RCC criticizes that pull people out of poverty - not forced charity via government confiscation.

74 posted on 05/31/2013 4:08:54 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Did God himself say that?”

Why don’t you get down on your knees and ask Him yourself. He’s listening.

(-:


75 posted on 05/31/2013 4:10:06 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: NYer

I take issue with Mary being free of original sin. Where in the Bible or any of quotes of Jesus would lead you to believe that? Also the idea of Christmas being Jesus’ birthday seems like a stretch as well. That’s what skimming over the BC left me with.


76 posted on 05/31/2013 4:10:30 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I have sexdaily. Oops, I meant dyslexia.)
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To: batmast

“To ALL who think that Catholics don’t read the Bible. CATHOLICS WROTE THE BIBLE!”

Moses was a Catholic? Since when?


77 posted on 05/31/2013 4:11:32 PM PDT by MeganC (You can take my gun when you can grab it with your cold, dead fingers.)
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To: batmast
CATHOLICS WROTE THE BIBLE!
Including the Old Testament? Oy.
78 posted on 05/31/2013 4:12:02 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BipolarBob

I’m suggesting that the existence of a galaxy of denominations, all claiming to be “Bible believing”, is an indication of how “sola Scriptura” is insufficient.


79 posted on 05/31/2013 4:14:44 PM PDT by RPTMS
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To: batmast
CATHOLICS WROTE THE BIBLE!

From Moses to John, they were all Catholics? Is that what you would have us believe? From rosary beads to confession booths to indulgences to bowing before a Pope? I just find this incredulous that they would be considered Catholic.

80 posted on 05/31/2013 4:15:02 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I have sexdaily. Oops, I meant dyslexia.)
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