Posted on 05/31/2013 2:44:05 PM PDT by NYer
"Jesus took His Flesh from the flesh of Mary." -St. Augustine
No, Catholics reject the heresy of Calvin's TULIP. Everyone, including Mary, has/had full freewill. Mary freely chose to become the Theotokos.
You are undermining the Protestant position on Mary's sinlessness. If she had no freewill, she was no more capable of sin than the beasts of the field. Either way, Protestantism is undermined.
Peace be with you
Flesh isn’t blood.
"[Jesus] did not receive His blood from [Mary] ... His blood was solely His." -Fr. Vincent Serpa, O.P.
"Jesus received his body and blood exclusively from Mary and Her womb was the Tabernacle for 9 months. No Mary, no Blood. - Natural Law
Old People: 2
Natural Law: 0
In the same way, a communion wafer isn't wine.
Mary was not God's brood mare, nor the rape victim of the Holy Spirit nor some rent-a-wombThose suppositions come ONLY from your posts.
How anyone could even post the words bolded above is completely unbelievable.
But IIRC you have posted other equally sick comments in the past.
What a completely degrading thing to twist opinions of other posters into close to, if not, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.
From a Catholicism expert no less. Oh that explains it, duly noted.
FWIW, I believe the corporate-approved phrasing is "shut up and kiss the ring".
The claim was that blood NEVER mixes between mother and child in the womb. I was just pointing out that that claim is wrong.
Jesus did. So did the Prophets. It is written.
What was written, and where?
Hmm, there evidently are works required.
That is so cute. I love everyone who thinks that they are saved simply because they declare it.
The growing child gets its food and oxygen from the mother through the placenta, and its waste is taken away in the same manner. There is always a small leakage across the membranes.
You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?”
But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?”
Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?
What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction,
and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory,
-- Romans 9:19-23...just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love,
having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will...
-- Ephesians 1:4-5
I (again) recommend that you investigate the difference between substance and property.
"Taken from the intact Virgin, the Flesh of Jesus is of the maternal flesh of Mary, the Blood of Jesus is of the maternal blood of Mary. Therefore, it will never be possible to separate Jesus from Mary." - St. Thomas Aquinas
Only TWO guesses to choose from?
LIKEWISE...
Catholic speculation is not fact.
So, in essence, you have no answer.
Well...
Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.[2]
Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.[3]
Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony[4]
Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.
From what I’ve been seeing, nothing happens without Mary involved...
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