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To: mitch5501
No but some certainly seem to go to a lot of trouble to diminish it's importance.After all,so much of it is simply poetic stories and can't be taken at face value.

Ever wonder why? I think it is because they know that some of what they teach goes against what the Scriptures teach. If everything matches perfectly, then there wouldn't be a need to assert authority over what God has given us. The Roman Catholic Church says that the Scriptures+Tradition*+the Church Magesterium = the truth of the Christian faith. *Tradition being what they claim was orally taught but not written down in the Bible. That way, whenever anyone notices that a RC teaching is contradicted by Scripture, they can say that whatever the Church teaches is the truth and you just have to take their word for it because they are THE church. All the past mistakes and corrections that have happened over the course of their history is marked off as simply "development" of doctrine - the Church growing in her understanding of the truth or human errors that weren't "official".

Much like the author of this thread article, they explain away things they get wrong or don't accept as, "God didn't MEAN it to be taken literally!" or, "Just trust us on this.". If I have to choose between man says or what God says, there would be no hesitation...God's word trumps man's!

122 posted on 04/03/2013 10:50:03 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums
"If I have to choose between man says or what God says, there would be no hesitation...God's word trumps man's!"

Amen to that dear sister! and of course we will have to answer to God for that...for "how readest thou?"...I am happy to have to answer for that!

Over the years I've spoken to many who profess Christ and also over those years I have come to prick up my 'spiritual ears' when anyone starts preaching 'their' particular church instead of Jesus.It happens a lot and since reading the RF over the years it's become apparent that none hold a candle to the RC in that department.I suppose it doesn't necessarily mean they're wrong but we are supposed to preach "Christ and Him crucified" and that,on the RF is far more rare than it should be!

God's grace to you bb and thankyou for your patience in posting the same rebuttals over and over and over again!

124 posted on 04/04/2013 1:03:18 AM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: boatbums
All the past mistakes and corrections that have happened over the course of their history is marked off as simply "development" of doctrine - the Church growing in her understanding of the truth or human errors that weren't "official".

Seems like another group has learned THIS lesson...


Mr. Millet:
 
I don't think we can ever transcend Joseph Smith or consider him to be a valued personality, but now we'll move on.
I don't think you'll see that among believers in the faith, because there are too many other things that came from him
that are the reasons why we do what we do and we are what we are. That there are unanswered questions, to be sure.
That there are things that I'm as anxious as the next guy to learn more detail on, I really want to know. But in the interim,
 it really doesn't, doesn't trouble me.
We're in the religion-making business, as you intimated earlier, only for a short time, I mean, compared to the
Christian church, which has been at this for a couple of millennia. We're about halfway to Nicaea.
And so, and so in that sense — I remember a very tender moment. I was speaking with — I've been invited
to the Salt Lake Theological Seminary, basically an Evangelical seminary, to discuss a book I had done on Jesus.
And they had read it, and they wanted me to come and just respond to questions.
And it was, it was a very enjoyable couple of hours.
 
The very last question that was asked by one of my friends there was this one.
 
He said, 'Bob, what can we do for you?'
 
And I, I wasn't ready for that question. I said, 'What do you mean?'
 
He said, 'What can we, as Evangelicals, do for our Mormon friends?'
 
And I, I guess my mind could have gone a hundred different ways, but what I came back with was this.
 
I said, 'Boy, I appreciate you asking that. I don't think I've ever been asked that.'
 
But, but I said, 'Try this. Cut us a little slack, will you? Give us a little time.
We're in the religion-making business, and this takes time. It takes centuries.
 
And, and trying to explain the faith and articulate the faith, that doesn't come over night.
We've really only been about that for 20 or 30 years.'
 
 
http://being.publicradio.org/programs/insidemormonfaith/transcript.shtml

147 posted on 04/04/2013 5:30:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe

You might like this thread...


148 posted on 04/04/2013 5:30:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums

“That way, whenever anyone notices that a RC teaching is contradicted by Scripture, they can say that whatever the Church teaches is the truth and you just have to take their word for it because they are THE church.”

Call me a cynic, but it is my experience that the guy who has to say “Trust me!” is usually the LAST person you want to trust.


172 posted on 04/04/2013 6:23:19 AM PDT by Boogieman
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