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A Call about Women’s Rights
PastorMatthew ^ | Matthew R. St. John

Posted on 03/25/2013 6:02:59 PM PDT by Morgana

The story on Fargo’s Valley News Live begins this way: Many women in North Dakota are left wondering what their rights really are when it comes to their bodies. As I processed the statement I could not help but think of an article on Salon.com about which I wrote on my blog a couple of months ago. Below is the post. Read it and see if you think North Dakotans really want Mary Elizabeth Williams’ perspective to exemplify “what their rights really are.” And when you are done reading it, please call North Dakota governor Jack Dalrymple and tell him you would like for him to sign the bills the North Dakota legislature has forwarded to him that would greatly restrict abortion in the state of North Dakota. His number is 701.328.2200. Call as soon as you are done reading.

Mary Elizabeth Williams has laid it out plain and simple. The staff writer for Salon and author of Gimme Shelter: My Three Years Searching for the American Dream, has stated in a recent article on Salon.com what intellectually honest people have been saying forever: the fetus is indeed a life. But at the moment that we might loudly applaud this great news from this supposedly popular columnist, we abruptly stop, for what she then says next snuffs out any hope that she and others have seen the light.

What is it she writes next?

That the fetus, which is “indeed a life,” is, in fact, “A life worth sacrificing.”

A life worth sacrificing? Evidently, if it gets in the way of “the boss.” Williams continues:

Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers. Yet a fetus can be a human life without having the same rights as the woman in whose body it resides. She’s the boss. Her life and what is right for her circumstances and her health should automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity inside of her. Always.

So, to hear the logic, the rights of the mother always trump the rights of the unborn because the mother is autonomous and the unborn child does not yet have autonomy. The mother’s interest always trump the interest of the “non-autonomous” child “inside of her.”

The dictionary describes “autonomous” as “self-governing, independent, able to choose, able to make decisions and act on them as a free and independent moral agent.” So the logic goes like this: if the four-month old girl is suddenly in the way because the mother’s circumstances have changed and the girl is now inconvenient, then she should be sacrificed.

Or consider this logical conclusion: if the sixteen-year old boy is in a terrible accident, now incapable of self-sufficiency and independent thinking, no longer autonomous in that he no longer has the capacity to self-decide, then he should be sacrificed. His life should be ended; particularly if it inconveniences his mother. After all, as Williams’ writes, the mother’s rights “automatically trump the rights of the non-autonomous entity. . . . Always.”

Or consider this logical conclusion: should the seventy-one year old mother, who now has Alzheimer’s Disease and cannot make any independent or even moral decisions for herself, inconvenience her forty-eight year old daughter, then mom is toast. She should be sacrificed. Her life should be snuffed out because she is, I suppose, no longer the boss. That baton has passed to the daughter who finds caring for mom to be utterly inconvenient. And we wouldn’t want to inconvenience the poor 40-something woman, now would we?

Williams certainly would not. Consider her reflection on her own 40-something world:

And I can say anecdotally that I’m a mom who loved the lives she incubated from the moment she peed on those sticks, and is also now well over 40 and in an experimental drug trial. If by some random fluke I learned today I was pregnant, you bet your ass I’d have an abortion. I’d have the World’s Greatest Abortion.

I am deeply thankful that she is a mom who “loved the lives she incubated from the moment she peed on those sticks.” I just hope that when she is no longer convenient for her kids to associate with she does not find herself the recipient of her own sick conviction, sacrificed by her offspring because she somehow got in their way. I guess if she had a glimmer of awareness within her as they suffocate her in the night with a pillow she will be applauding their actions even as she writhes for her last breath.


TOPICS: Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: abortion; northdakota; prolife

1 posted on 03/25/2013 6:02:59 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: narses; wagglebee; little jeremiah; GeronL

ping


2 posted on 03/25/2013 6:03:33 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

“lives unworthy of living” was first coined by the nazis


3 posted on 03/25/2013 6:10:36 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Morgana

the mother (the boss) = the master

the unborn baby = chattel property = slave, to be terminated at will

Evil.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 6:11:40 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

You may thank planned parenthood for that logic


5 posted on 03/25/2013 6:14:49 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Just like we “non-autonomous” citizens have no rights because “the boss” (i.e the glorious leader) comes first.


6 posted on 03/25/2013 6:24:38 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Morgana

Left-wing psychopaths shouldn’t be infecting the gene pool anyway I suppose...

have to look on the bright side of this...or make one up.


7 posted on 03/25/2013 6:29:32 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Morgana

around 1973 North Dakota was about 12% Catholic

but at least 70% of the population would have voted against abortion if they had been given the chance...


8 posted on 03/25/2013 6:30:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Morgana

Psychopaths tend to kill their own offspring.

Maybe this is natural selection keeping the species alive for another thousand years?


9 posted on 03/25/2013 6:31:55 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Morgana

It is completely impossible to comprehend this level of evil.

What this thing said is verbatim Nazi doctrine. The Führerprinzip is EVERYTHING to these animals!


10 posted on 03/25/2013 6:34:49 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Morgana
I don't see the word "responsibility" anywhere here.

Rights and Responsibilities go hand in hand.
It seems to be missing from this persons world view.

11 posted on 03/25/2013 6:37:57 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Morgana
A life worth sacrificing? Evidently, if it gets in the way of “the boss.” Williams continues:

Here’s the complicated reality in which we live: All life is not equal. That’s a difficult thing for liberals like me to talk about, lest we wind up looking like death-panel-loving, kill-your-grandma-and-your-precious-baby storm troopers.

versus

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal...

Yes m'am, no matter how you want to appear, your words expose you. Deep down you are the most vile, arbitrary and capricious type of storm trooper, one who would decide the matter of others' life or death on the basis of you very own whim, on what you deem to be convenient.

But then, for liberals "equality" has always been an elusive concept.

To continue......that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

So who are you, m'am, to deprive others of those fundamental and unalienable Rights? Especially when those who will suffer the ultimate penalty for their crime are only 'guilty' of inconveniencing you.

If you put it to a vote, maybe those so deprived would find you "inconvenient".

But for the sake of convenience, more often than not, over 50,000,000 voices have been silenced, over 50,000,000 will never get to vote, over 50,000,000 will never get a choice of any kind--and the likes of you would expand the scope of that slaughter.

So no matter what you would want to appear, the blood of millions is on your hands.

13 posted on 03/25/2013 7:05:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Morgana

Please understand that sanctioned gay marriage destroys the traditional family which is unquestionably the key to sustaining society and perhaps our species. It’s that important, as unfeeling as it may appear.


14 posted on 03/25/2013 8:15:57 PM PDT by chiller (NBCNews et al is in the tank and should be embarrassed)
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To: Morgana

Our society is morally on par with Nazi Germany.


15 posted on 03/25/2013 8:46:42 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Morgana
If by some random fluke I learned today I was pregnant, you bet your ass I’d have an abortion.

What, Mary Elizabeth? Is pregnancy going to just magically happen to you without your knowledge or participation??? Is THAT what we are calling unplanned pregnancy now, "a random fluke"? You've had kids...you know what causes them!

It never ceases to amaze me the irrationalizational lengths some people go to remain the center of their own universe! Like the author, I also wonder what she will think should she find herself as a random fluke of inconvenience for her kids?

16 posted on 03/25/2013 8:56:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

“If by some random fluke I learned today I was pregnant, you bet your ass I’d have an abortion. “

“What, Mary Elizabeth? Is pregnancy going to just magically happen to you without your knowledge or participation??? Is THAT what we are calling unplanned pregnancy now, “a random fluke”? You’ve had kids...you know what causes them! “

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**fill in the blank**

Why now you knew pregnancy was a disease transmitted by _______? /major sarc


17 posted on 03/25/2013 9:01:04 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Does she also speak this way...”you bet your ass” and “peed on a stick”. I’ve noticed this uncouth way of speaking by many feminists. Makes one wonder if it’s a deliberate ploy (speaking down) to engage the uninformed, iow, if they think it’s okay to kill their babies (and they’re more educated than me) then it must be okay. It certainly takes care of the conscience...at least until the evil is done.


18 posted on 03/26/2013 6:33:55 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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