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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
What comes out of the mouth is indeed more important

ABSOLUTELY! I am in agreement here but that does not negate our responsibility and duty to walk, teach and speak His truth as He gave it to us to walk, teach and speak.

Rm 14 is about fasting and not eating food sacrificed to idols, 1Cor 10 about giving thanks to God for all that He created to be eaten and not letting anyone hinder us in our walk with Yeshua.

And Mt 15 is not about what is defined as food, but is about the legalism of the oral law of Judaism and their hand-washing laws that put yokes on men where Yahweh put no yokes on men. Now hand-washing before eating is a good thing, it is just not a command of Yahweh.

Yeshua in Mt 15:19 speaks of blasphemies and false witnessing, these are things that are said that are not true and evil speaking against the authority of Yahweh, both of which contain that which is direct opposition what Yeshua walked and taught which is obedience to the Father from a circumcised heart.

In Lk 24, Yeshua defined His Scriptures for us that we are to use to seek out Him and His truth and Yeshua defines these Scriptures as Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms, so everything that Yeshua, Paul and all the other apostles speak must align with that which Yeshua gave us to seek out. If they don't, then it is a new gospel that Yeshua did not preach.

The Father doesn't wait a decade or more to reveal His truth, He prophesies before hand what will be and then He gives it when He or His representative is present as He did at Mt Sinai. All the apostles confirm that the covenant given at Mt Sinai is the one and the same covenant given to us, the only difference is that we now have it in its fullest meaning that was prophesied to happen upon Yeshua’s death, burial and resurrection.

Nothing new, but all simply true as it has been from the beginning. If it doesn't have ‘hath God said’ or ‘God says’ before it, I believe it to be inspired but inspired is not the same as directly from the horse's mouth as it was at Mt Sinai.

2Tim 3:14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Yeshua Messiah. 16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

What Scriptures had Timothy known from his youth? Certainly not that which was written long after he became an adult and a disciple of Yeshua Messiah. All that which is right of Malachi did not exist in a formal scroll for ALL to read until centuries after Messiah's death. All that is and was, is and is to be was written long before Yeshua came in the flesh to lead and teach us how to walk in righteousness of the Father as He, Yeshua, walked in the righteousness of the Father.

Yeshua said in Mt 7 that those practicing lawlessness, He does not know them and they do not know Him. Christian doctrine, which includes my former state of spirituality, teaches a lawless gospel message in direct opposition to that of Yeshua. My Lutheran study bible admits it! So what does that say? It says they know it but their hearts are so hardened that they refuse to humble themselves to His truth so that they can keep walking in their own righteousness rather than His.

Whose righteousness do you want to be found in when He returns? His or the churches? Because it is only those walking in His righteousness that obtain the reward of the bride. Righteousness simply being doing that which is right in the eyes of the Father, not doing what is deemed to be right in the eyes of some religious zealots seeking their own righteousness as many of the Pharisees and scribes were doing with the Word of God that they had changed and continue to change. Christian Pharisees are a dime a dozen, just as Jewish ones are to this very day. The only difference, the Jewish ones admit to being Pharisees who claim to have the authority to change God's instructions and heap unwanted yokes and burdens on the people.

Christian doctrine absolutely teaches works based salvation with their sacraments. Every one of them!!! If food laws are so trivial, then I guess we can put them under the 'least' of His commands which Yeshua said we are not to teach anyone that it is ok to disobey even the least.

Not one jott or one tittle shall fall, ever! His Word is eternal and for all mankind. (Ecc 12:13-14)

22 posted on 03/29/2013 3:18:17 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: patlin

“Rm 14 is about fasting and not eating food sacrificed to idols,”


Wrong.

Rom 14:1-6 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. (2) For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. (3) Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. (4) Who art thou that judgest another man’s servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (5) One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. (6) He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

No mention of fasting. In fact, the person who chooses to eat “only herbs” is called “weak in the faith” compared to the person who believes he can eat all things. Fasting is never called a “weakness” in scripture.

“1Cor 10 about giving thanks to God for all that He created to be eaten and not letting anyone hinder us in our walk with Yeshua.”


Wrong. Just the opposite.

1Co 10:23-29 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. (24) Let no man seek his own, but every man another’s wealth. (25) Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: (26) For the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof. (27) If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. (28) But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof: (29) Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man’s conscience?

We are specifically not to hinder someone ELSE, who might be offended by that which is lawful for us to do. If the man says straight out, “this is offered in sacrifice unto idols,” you do not eat it for HIS sake, not your own. Otherwise, we are to eat what is presented before us, without questioning for HIS sake.

Your distortions of scripture are stunning.


23 posted on 03/29/2013 3:38:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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