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To: willardwx

Fro htose that may be struggling with whether one can lose salvation or not, or whether we shoudl live by old testament laws- The ten commandments are ‘good moral values’ to live by, but liek willardwx says, they do not save- if they do save, then Christ’s death was in vain, for ONLY a pure and perfect sacrifice can save forever and fully save. All things are made new, old has passed away (ie- the law)

In John 10:28-30, Jesus says: “I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.”

If Christ gives us eternal life at salvation, but we can later ‘mess up salvation’ by sinning and causing our souls to be in peril of hell, then this verse is meaningless and Christ a liar-

Hebrews You are here: God >> The Bible >> Hebrews 6

1 So let us stop going over the basics of Christianity* again and again. Let us go on instead and become mature in our understanding. Surely we don’t need to start all over again with the importance of turning away from evil deeds and placing our faith in God.1

2 You don’t need further instruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.

3 And so, God willing, we will move forward to further understanding.

4 For it is impossible to restore to repentance those who were once enlightened—those who have experienced the good things of heaven and shared in the Holy Spirit,

5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the power of the age to come—

6 and who then turn away from God. It is impossible to bring such people to repentance again because they are nailing the Son of God to the cross again by rejecting him, holding him up to public shame.

7 When the ground soaks up the rain that falls on it

This of course is talking of apostates- those who ‘got close to salvation’ but never took the finalizing step of true acceptance and who later turned agaisnt God- God will NOT give these peopel, these apostates, a second chance- But the principle also stands for Christians inthat we can NOT keep sacrificign our Lord and Savior by continually beign saved, losing salvation, beign saved again etc- If we coudl do so- then we woudl be continually subjectign /Christ to the shame that came abotu because of the crucifiction- God spells it out loud and clear in verse 6- If Christ must be crucified tiem and time again by our losing our salvation because of things liek not obeying hte old testament laws, then His sacrifice was an INSUFFICIENT saccrifice no better than the yearly sacrifices of impure animals that the jews sacrificed (Spotless animals did NOT mean ‘pure animals’ they were still impure due to beign under the curse)


7 posted on 03/12/2013 9:39:02 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

Well said. I think I agree with you. I like to refer to the “rule followers”as “legalists”. One of the main legal requirements is “tithing” which,as you know is not in the New Testament and is sold as being there by liars from a “pulpit” in a mortgaged building wanting their house payment and car payment, 401k etc. Give me the money, I am the agent for God. Ha.
Nice to meet you and God Bless.


9 posted on 03/13/2013 12:27:43 PM PDT by willardwx
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