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To: Jo Nuvark; All
Well . . . almost fourteen years after I first registered here to respond to stuff like this and it seems it still goes on.

Charedi ("ultra-Orthodox") Jews are "anti-Zionist" in that they reject Zionism as a modern, secular European nationalist movement that sought to create an ethnically Jewish but modern European-style state in the Holy Land. However, they still believe that one day Mashiach will come, gather all Jews to 'Eretz Yisra'el, and reinstitute the Kingdom of David.

Most non-Jewish anti-Zionists interpret "Zionism" as something completely different--a "plot to rule the world." Anti-Semitic gentiles often invoke anti-Zionist Charedim in their own war against "Jewish world rule." However, even the most anti-Zionist Charedim still believe in "Jewish world rule" in the sense of the Kingdom of G-d on earth, with its capital in Jerusalem. Thus anti-Zionist gentiles who believe "anti-Zionist" Charedim are opposed to the alleged "Jewish plot to rule the world" are making fools of themselves, in two ways: 1)Zionism is not a "plot to rule the world" but a mere secular nationalist movement, and 2)all Orthodox Jews, including the Charedim, believe Mashiach will rule the world.

Let's hope we've seen the last of this idiocy at FR (but something tells me we should know better).

21 posted on 02/25/2013 3:45:02 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
all Orthodox Jews, including the Charedim, believe Mashiach will rule the world.

And on that, we're in agreement too.

23 posted on 02/25/2013 3:55:54 PM PST by marron
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To: Zionist Conspirator; All

Thank you ZC.

That’s the kind of response I was hoping for.
I did not realize anti-zionism is linked to non
Jews and is considered racist and anti-semitic.
THAT is not what I’m trying to get at. I am
simply trying to understand the difference
between Judaism and Zionism. After reading
the article I believe there is a difference and
people should be as informed as you appear to
be.

Thank you for taking the time to respond with
courtesy and knowledge.


24 posted on 02/25/2013 3:57:38 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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