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To: terycarl

terycarl,

Friend, you are not on trial. But you did make a claim that the Catholic Church is always infallible. I asked you if this is simply an opinion or personal belief of yours - apart from anything objective to support it - or if you can back it up. You are free to do either and I accept your choice.

A truth proposition that is unsupported is not much different than a home that is all roof and no walls to support it. It lays on the ground and you can point to it as a roof, but without walls, it isn’t really a roof.

Your main evidence presented above is the verse that says, “if you bind it on earth, it will be bound in heaven and if you loose it on earth it will be loosed in heaven?”

First, in response, I give you a 10 out of 10 for creativity!

A more literal translation helps here: ““Whatever you shall bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you shall loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”

Peter’s role in the Messianic kingdom will be carried out by ascertaining the mind of God and then implementing it as a Chief Steward of the Monarch. As such, your creativity doesn’t teach the Catholic Church to be infallible. It teaches Peter’s role in the future will involve discerning the mind of God and acting to implement it.

Additionally, you wrote in summation... “He also PROMISED to guide the church until the end of time.....close enough for me!! “

You don’t quote a verse, so I will refrain from ferreting out what you may be referring to. Suffice it to say, that being guided is quite different than being infallible in following His guidance.

Though your roof is still flat on the ground, you tried creatively and I appreciate that!

Kindest Regards,
AMPU


136 posted on 01/29/2013 6:00:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

A more literal translation helps here: ““Whatever you shall bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you shall loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.”

LITERAL TRANSLATION????? a total rewriting of the scripture!!!!!


147 posted on 01/29/2013 7:32:29 PM PST by terycarl
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