[Elsie]

He also PROMISED to guide the church until the end of time.....close enough for me!! HE did; eh?

Then why listen to POPES; especially after it's been PROVEN that they are as bad as the rest of us?

[terycarl]

Then why listen to POPES; especially after it's been PROVEN that they are as bad as the rest of us

they, like the apostles, were mere mortals, hence they are in need of guidance, that's what Jesus promised.....guidance... and He promised it until the end of time...