“Christians from the beginning of the Church have had Scriptural Truth”
I just have to respectfully disagree. The Gospel of Luke, for instance, was not written until about 63, more than 30 years after Jesus’ Death. The Bible was still being composed for decades after Jesus’ Death. The Book of Revelation was probably composed from 100 to 120, moving close to 100 years after Jesus’ Death. These Christians heard Scriptural Truths but they obeyed the Church obedient to Rome. In the days of 3 hour sermons lacking air conditioning, I think you overestimate how much Scriptural Truth the flock retained. They, many of them uneducated, didn’t look only to their limited knowledge of Scripture they heard for truth, but they looked to the Church. Why would they obey those teaching Scriptural Truth, if those teaching it had no authority?
2/3 of the Holy Scriptures were already written - the very same that Christ fulfilled. The Church was born into a world God had already prepared.
“I think you overestimate how much Scriptural Truth the flock retained.”
This is your opinion-you are entitled to hold it. It could be equally argued that aural tradition/teaching societies retain more. I have see this reported on before we had the Internet.
God set Teachers in His Church as a gift of the Spirit. They have always been there and are today. They don’t, however teach what they invent. They teach the Scriptures.
I've heard a rumor that some folks would preach all night long!
While I think that in our modern intellectual smugness, we tend to think of folks 2,000 years ago as ignorant.
('ceptin' those in the CHURCH; of course...)
Go ahead; but would you give us some evidence that upholds your assumption?
“Christians from the beginning of the Church have had Scriptural Truth”What do you think Jesus read from in the temple?I just have to respectfully disagree.
They had quite a lot of scripture in those days, but of course not the new testament as it was being lived out back then.
References to Jesus as the messiah/saviour start back in Genesis and continue throughout the whol Old Testament.
These Christians heard Scriptural Truths but they obeyed the Church obedient to RomeAbsurd, there was no such entity back then.
They obeyed God obedient to Jesus.
The church back then is the same as the church today, made up of EVERY born again Christian who has a personal relationship with Jesus.
That's irrelevant because they had the OT, which the Berean's searched to verify what Paul was teaching, and it was the OT Scripture which made Timothy wise to salvation.
Nobody needs the whole Bible to be saved and grow.
These Christians heard Scriptural Truths but they obeyed the Church obedient to Rome.
There is no Scriptural support for that.
In the days of 3 hour sermons lacking air conditioning, I think you overestimate how much Scriptural Truth the flock retained. They, many of them uneducated, didn’t look only to their limited knowledge of Scripture they heard for truth, but they looked to the Church.
Maybe illiterate, but not stupid. I am so sick of everyone acting like people who lived 2,000 years ago were morons. If they weren't literate, they had to do it all by memory. They had to have incredible memories.
Why would they obey those teaching Scriptural Truth, if those teaching it had no authority?
Because Scripture itself has authority. The Holy Spirit leads into all truth. Truth stands on its own and doesn't need man administering it. All believers have the Holy Spirit living in them.