11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome

stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

[Elsie]

Our faith is founded on Christ -- this is about Authority.

Yeah... We know...

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'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'  

[Elsie]

How many times is Peter’s name in scripture?

Galatians 2:11

When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly wrong.

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Christ gave the authority to St. Peter.

THAT worked out well!

[Elsie]

Nope, and they ripped apart the Bible in their efforts to deceive.

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• Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]
• Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

[RobbyS]

Paul wrote TO the Church in Rome. That Church would consist mainly of Jews who brought to the faith to the capital of the Empire. His letter comes very close to a treatise on the faith, hardly something one would write to a congregation unfamiliar with the Gospel. AS for the rest, Peter seems to have kept more to the company of Jewish Christians as opposed to Paul who founded Greek churches, but Acts makes it clear that Peter accepted the baptism of the gentiles.

[Elsie]

...".....he named PETER, Petra ...

Not really. The Bible CLEARLY indicates that SIMON was ALREADY known as Peter before Jesus mentioned it.

[Elsie]

Hello, even GM's CEO PICKS his REPLACEMENT TO CARRY ON THE BUSINESS........geesh.

You might want to learn a bit more about what you've so boldly stated...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_succession

[RobbyS]

You cannot even break break bread together because your dispute the meaning of that phrase in the Gospels. Nor the meaning of baptism for that matter.

[CynicalBear]

>> It is so very sad to see when Christians fight eatch other.<<

I don’t understand that point of view. I don’t see it as “fighting” each other at all. We are told many times in scripture to exort, rebuke, and correct.

2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

People always come up with the “judge not” meme but the word used in John 7:24 is “krino” which means:

Short Definition: I judge, decide, think good
Definition: (a) I judge, whether in a law-court or privately: sometimes with cognate
nouns emphasizing the notion of the verb, (b) I decide, I think (it) good.
[http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/2919.htm]

I don’t see this as “fighting” at all. At least that is not the intent or attitude I have. If someone sees this as “fighting” then perhaps it is they who need to examine their own motives. And I don't say that to you personally at all but to anyone who thinks that by being involved in these discussion it's somehow fighting. I would suggest that "contend for the faith" would be a better term.

[Elsie]

You are sad.

I like your cool and methodical way you pick apart the poor reasonings in his post.

[Ann Archy]

What Bible...WHERE??

[Elsie]

Pearls. Swine.

Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

[Biggirl]

But also remember that, as Christian believers, be it Catholic or Prostestant, there is one passage of scripture that should unite us:

“One Lord, one faith, one baptism.”

Ephesians 4:6.

What I see here is attacking one Christian believer by others to try to make a point at a time when Christians are being “attacked” world-wide and must be united to be able to spread the good news of the Gospel of Jesus.

[RobbyS]

Luther and Calvin were radical Augustinians, but most evangelicals today have long departed from such views. Except on a narrow range of views the Reformers departed ways with Augustine, who was after all, a Catholic bishop. As for “semi-pelegianism”, the modern “big box churches seems to have gone past the “holiness”phase to methodism/evangelicalism to full-blown pelagianism.

[Elsie]

Christ said these to Peter.

The one who BETRAYED Him, and later was found CLEARLY in the wrong.

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To whom did Christ give the Keys to the Kingdom?

19. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Well; since He was addressing ALL of the disciples...

Unless you want to claim the OTHERs had no POWER to BIND/LOOSE...

[Biggirl]

Maybe what it is coming down to is to correct in love.

[Elsie]

Who carries on the work of Christ in the Book of Acts?

Uh... No one??

Because Christ's 'work' is FINISHED.

All that is left is to TELL about it.

[RobbyS]

One reason is that we are divided by history. We are so divided into sects that all outsiders see is that we are divided. Go to Jerusalem and one sees squabbling over the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, and evangelicals even found their own site to claim as the burial site.

[Elsie]

All Christian churches receive their teaching from the Catholic Church and the Catholic Bible.

Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

[Elsie]

Who guards the gate of heaven? Have you never thought about this before?

Hmmm...

Now THERE's a subject I need to study!