Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer
Yeah... We know...
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, ' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' |
Galatians 2:11
When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly wrong.
Christ gave the authority to St. Peter.
THAT worked out well!
Not really. The Bible CLEARLY indicates that SIMON was ALREADY known as Peter before Jesus mentioned it.
You might want to learn a bit more about what you've so boldly stated...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_succession
You cannot even break break bread together because your dispute the meaning of that phrase in the Gospels. Nor the meaning of baptism for that matter.
I dont understand that point of view. I dont see it as fighting each other at all. We are told many times in scripture to exort, rebuke, and correct.
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; 14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.
People always come up with the judge not meme but the word used in John 7:24 is krino which means:
Short Definition: I judge, decide, think good
Definition: (a) I judge, whether in a law-court or privately: sometimes with cognate
nouns emphasizing the notion of the verb, (b) I decide, I think (it) good.
[http://biblesuite.com/strongs/greek/2919.htm]
I dont see this as fighting at all. At least that is not the intent or attitude I have. If someone sees this as fighting then perhaps it is they who need to examine their own motives. And I don't say that to you personally at all but to anyone who thinks that by being involved in these discussion it's somehow fighting. I would suggest that "contend for the faith" would be a better term.
I like your cool and methodical way you pick apart the poor reasonings in his post.
What Bible...WHERE??
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
But also remember that, as Christian believers, be it Catholic or Prostestant, there is one passage of scripture that should unite us:
“One Lord, one faith, one baptism.”
Ephesians 4:6.
What I see here is attacking one Christian believer by others to try to make a point at a time when Christians are being “attacked” world-wide and must be united to be able to spread the good news of the Gospel of Jesus.
Luther and Calvin were radical Augustinians, but most evangelicals today have long departed from such views. Except on a narrow range of views the Reformers departed ways with Augustine, who was after all, a Catholic bishop. As for semi-pelegianism, the modern big box churches seems to have gone past the holinessphase to methodism/evangelicalism to full-blown pelagianism.
The one who BETRAYED Him, and later was found CLEARLY in the wrong.
To whom did Christ give the Keys to the Kingdom?
19. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."
Well; since He was addressing ALL of the disciples...
Unless you want to claim the OTHERs had no POWER to BIND/LOOSE...
Maybe what it is coming down to is to correct in love.
Uh... No one??
Because Christ's 'work' is FINISHED.
All that is left is to TELL about it.
Pope Stephen VI (896897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.[1]
Pope John XII (955964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.
Pope Benedict IX (10321044, 1045, 10471048), who "sold" the Papacy
Pope Boniface VIII (12941303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy
Hmmm...
Now THERE's a subject I need to study!
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