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To: Rashputin
There is a certain irony in accusing "conservatism" of being anti-Catholic, considering that outside the United States and the Protestant Anglosphere, Catholicism is often the heart and soul of conservatism . . . and every bit as xenophobic and bigoted as any American Protestant. What Catholics have suffered in "Protestant America" is nothing compared to what Jews suffered in Catholic and Orthodox lands. While we're busy correcting historical amnesia, let's not forget this little tidbit.

What is often forgotten in American Catholic criticism of "conservatism" is that in the nineteenth century, Protestant nativists attacked the Church from the Left. There was very little "whore of Babylon" rhetoric in nativist politics. It was mostly celebrations of enlightenment and progress as opposed to "superstition" and "despotism." Somehow this all gets lost in the shuffle and contemporary Fundamentalist Protestant anti-Catholicism gets conflated with the enlightenment anti-Catholicism of the nineteenth century nativists.

27 posted on 11/18/2012 7:32:50 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The only thing ironic is someone who says Christ is a false “Gxd” and all of Christianity is falsehood based on lies pontificating about Christianity as if any Christian is stupid enough to take what they say seriously.
30 posted on 11/18/2012 11:56:59 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
What Catholics have suffered in "Protestant America" is nothing compared to what Jews suffered in Catholic and Orthodox lands.

.. and to what the Catholics and primarily Orthodox suffered in the USSR.

You are largely correct, but things change. I agree that our tormentors (yours and mine alike) won't be Protestants.

32 posted on 11/18/2012 12:27:30 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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