Posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:09 AM PST by Colofornian
MessageToEagle.com - Normally, as a matter of personal preference I don’t get into politics, but when we have a presidential campaign that begins to cross over into the strange twilight zone of religious weirdness that centers on the one person who’s going to control the most powerful government and army on the face of the earth, well, it brings up some unusual scenarios to wonder about.
It is being reported in the media today that former presidential candidate Mitt Romney only wrote a victory speech for Election Day; presumably a harried, last minute scramble to revise his speech was being suggested as the reason behind the Romney-Ryan campaigns’ sluggish reluctance to concede their party’s unthinkable defeat.
Electoral Votes:
Barack Obama: 303 Mitt Romney: 206
Curiously, one has to wonder whether it was Romney’s obsession with polls and tracking data that lead to this overextension of hubris; his unshakable faith that he would be the next president of the United States—or could it have been Romney’s Mormon faith itself that lead him to believe victory was all but assured by some divine mandate?
Ascending to the office of the presidency has always been a coveted part of the mission of the Mormon Church, which began with its founder Joseph Smith, who as a young man experienced a close encounter with a being from another planet named Moroni, who descended from the heavens and instructed Smith to found a new religion (as seen on History Channel’s Ancient Aliens, S3E01)—today, in Ufology, such a happenstance would likely be classified as a contactee CE5 level event.
“I saw a pillar of light . . . which descended gradually until it fell upon me” – Joseph Smith.
In 1844 Joseph Smith, an apparent UFO contactee and the founder of the Mormon Church, brazenly launched his own political campaign for President of the United States. His stated goal was to overthrow the U.S. Constitution, and bring about a Mormon theocracy to the Nation.
Smith’s candidacy was always long shot, but that didn’t stop him from rallying his people to help clinch his destiny to be an independent commander in chief of the “army of God”.
Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not bow to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” He foresaw the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong”—a leader who would “set in order the house of God”.
Smith’s call for a “theodemocracy where God and his people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” evidently did not sit well with the majority of voters in the United States, and brought down a lot of bad press and hostility upon the Mormons. Smith’s presidential campaign was cut short while he was sitting in jail facing charges of treason and inciting a riot; an angry mob broke into the jailhouse and brought him to justice by shooting him to death.
Out of this early chapter of U.S. history developed what has became known in the Mormon Church as the “White Horse Prophecy”—a controversial prediction that someday a great Mormon leader, who, at a time when the U.S. Constitution “hangs like a thread as fine as a silk fiber”, would be elected President.
I know a little bit about Mormonism and their beliefs. I grew up and lived in Salt Lake City most all my life, I sat through many days of LDS seminary at public schools, and I also attended a private Mormon school as a teenager.
My family has roots in the Mormon pioneer heritage and early history. My ancestors, the Neff’s, came to the Salt Lake Valley in 1847, from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. My great-great-great-grandfather John Neff, Sr. settled Neff’s canyon in East Millcreek, Utah. He was also a close friend of Brigham Young and accompanied him into Northern Utah to proselyte amongst the Native Americans there. His daughter, Mary Ann Neff, married the notorious Mormon gunslinger and Utah folkhero Orrin Porter Rockwell.
Orrin Porter Rockwell was one scary-looking son of a bitch . . .
Rockwell served as a loyal henchman to Church founders Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young—and was affectionately nick-named ‘Ol’ Port’ the ‘Destroying Angel of Mormondom’.
In his despicable and sordid history, Ol’ Port was intimately connected to political assassinations, revenge-killings, and gruesome Indian massacres. He’s praised for having avenged the Prophet Joseph Smith’s murder by shooting one of the conspirators with his musket while riding astride a horse.
There have been a few failed attempts in various movies and books to elevate the psychopath to the status of a gritty American hero of the old west —fortunately, none of them have really stuck.
A few of the many curious tenants of Mormonism I heard growing up in Salt Lake City were as follows . . .
*Cain, the killer of his brother Abel, is alive and wanders the earth, wearing no clothing but being covered by hair, and that LDS Church apostle David W. Patten encountered him once; and that reported sightings of Bigfoot can be explained by this story.
*Blacks were neutral in the War in Heaven, and that is why they were not allowed to hold the Mormon priesthood before 1978.
*Albert Einstein supposedly once said that LDS Church apostle James E. Talmage was the smartest man he had ever met.
*The Second Coming was imminent, and when I was age 25 I would be living in the “Last Days” (I’m in my 40’s now).
And here’s where Mitt Romney’s presidential candidacy enters the picture—
I remember my 7th grade LDS seminary teacher sermonizing about the “signs” of the ‘Last Days’.
One of his favorite ‘signs’ that he liked to talk about was that a great Mormon leader would be elected President of the United States, and this would be a major indication that the Last Days were imminent, e.g. the White Horse Prophecy.
Some say that the White Horse Prophecy was written by Joseph Smith himself, while others dispute that claim. According to the Salt Lake City Tribune:
The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy. “You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed,” the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. “It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber.”
Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.
“Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion,” the prophecy says.
Publicly, the Mormon Church doesn’t officially endorse the ‘White Horse Prophecy’ as doctrine, and will deny anything to do with it (just as Romney has whenever it’s been brought up)—however, there’s a telling piece of Mormon dogma that people may find disturbing. It was set in place by Joseph Smith himself, and is referred to as “lying for the Lord.”
As an act of self preservation or to protect the Mormon Church, it is doctrinally permissive to lie about your beliefs or intentions. In other words the ends justify the means. Smith did it with regard to his polygamous lifestyle. Brigham Young did it when he claimed that only Paiute Indians were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre.
Over and over again, Mitt Romney marginalized his devout Mormon background, and downplayed its significance throughout his entire campaign. But in the 1970’s the ‘Cougar Club’ at Brigham Young University declared their admiration of Mitt and predicted that he’d be the president of the United States one day. According to an article on Salon.com:
…the Cougar Club — the all male, all white social club at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City (blacks were excluded from full membership in the Mormon church until 1978) — was humming with talk that its president, Mitt Romney, would become the first Mormon president of the United States. “If not Mitt, then who?” was the ubiquitous slogan within the elite organization. The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.
With all this in mind, it’s hard not to look back and wonder . . .
Could Mitt Romney have been intending to run the United States as a Mormon theocratic state, as fortold by his Church’s prophet Joseph Smith?
Would a President Romney have executed the will of the people of the United States, and answered to the people—or would he only answer to God via the hierarchy of the Mormon Church?
What if a “revelation” or “vision” was received by the current President of the LDS Church (or Prophet), and passed on to ‘President Romney’ as a directive from God?–would Romney have executed that directive, even if it had gone against the will of the U.S. people, or the World?
Thankfully, this is probably one mystery we’ll never know the answer to . . .
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Here’s my answer: Jesus Christ is the Lord. If you know the Bible, you would know that I would not be able to make that statement without help from the Holy Ghost Himself.
Not to worry, for it is MUCH better for the cause to have you here; typing what is in your head.
I type what’s in my heart. My heart is occupied by the Savior Jesus Christ.
Yes, to Mormons, Lucifer is Mormons' "elder brother" -- because they consider him to be the 2nd "spirit" born to a mom-god and a dad-god on a planet near the star Kolob.
They know this doesn't sound good on ears public-relations' wise...so they hem and haw and duck and accuse...like they did when Mike Huckabee alluded to it back in Dec of 07...
I type what’s in my heart. My heart is occupied by the Savior Jesus Christ.
Is it any wonder why the GOP as a political party is dead?
Because their natural constituency suffers from some kind of pathology that prevents us from doing ruthless battle with our enemies, and instead we take our anger out on each other, and put our energy into counterproductive subjects.
I suppose it is the easy way out, and the only way to distract us from letting our children and grandchildren down.....leaving them with an American nation that is an inch away from 3rd world status.
“I am so tired of people condemning me to hell using some false assumptions.”
Please point to an exact place someone condemned you to hell. Otherwise, you are spouting hot air to play the victim.
“I was raised to fear and loathe Mormons. It was all a pack of lies. “
First true thing I’ve read in a post of yours! Way to go!! Mormonism still is a pack of lies.
“This site is filled with ignorance when it comes to Mormons. “
And yet you haven’t pointed any out specifically.
“But in the end, Jesus is still my Lord”
Which one? The mormonic, created spirit mormon Jesus? or the Biblical Jesus Christ who is eternally God?
You’ve been back a matter of hours and already, you are the World’s Biggest Victim.
Have a source of JR saying that or should we ping him?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1103363/posts
And THEY have Festivus!
Altho Swedenborg never left the Lutheran church, and didn't want to start a new church, one was formed by his disciples after he died. They deemed his writings as divinely inspired...tho more in a parabolic way.
Also, when Swedenborg was alive, he arbitrarily deemed 1757 as the "intro" of the NEW Age, with the "old Christian age" out the window.
So Swedenborg's post-humous "church" deems themselves as the "new church" of the "new age" -- and Christians as the "old church" of the "old age."
So Swedenborg was one of THE first "New Agers" of the Western world...
Of course, if the "Old Age" was of little consequence, wonder why Swedenborg claimed to have "conversations" with the dead (like Luther, Calvin, etc.)???
Swedenborgism is ultimately then based upon the occultic visions of Swedenborg...
Yes.
We 'few' are as effective as a MORMON 'legion'; if not more so.
We EFFECTIVELY brought the entire MORMON pr machine to it's knees by posting truthful items about MORMONism; FROM mormonism.
“Pretty sad when America’s premier Conservative web site has 600 comments on a subject that has ZERO to do with plans on how to defy, resist, and defeat the Communists that run this country.”
Oh, that’s nothing. America’s premier Conservative web site has a Religion Forum that has ZERO to do with plans on how to defy, resist, and defeat the Communists that run this country!
Wait.
Maybe that’s why God is mentioned on the home page of America’s premier Conservative website...
Never mind.
Ya gotta dig to really find this out; but Mormon 'SCRIPTURE' sure is down on ONE woman!!!
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DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS SECTION 132
51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
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You 'birds of a feather' just do that.
Wasn’t “talking about you”, only making an observation to somebody else about a phrase the mormons used concerning Christians on the Rleigion Forum.- “hosing the pigs”.
It really isn’t all about you.
You will NOT hear it from Sandy!
She never says ANYTHING about unique MORMON teachings; ALWAYS falling back on what she learned as a Baptist.
You see; in her heart she KNOWS that MORMONism is wrong; and hopes that merely MOUTHING the right platitudes she'll be ok with JESUS at the judgement.
Saundra Duffy: Come ye out and be ye separate...
2 Corinthians 6:17
Mom, Mom, Mom....
You SURELY know by now that Sandy will NEVER show anything!
MORMONs are taught to ACCUSE: not PROVE!!
AGAIN?
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