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To: Colofornian
Look @ your open-ended promise in post #36...twas addressed ONLY to me and referenced "my posse"...since when do you get to unilaterally define that?

Hence, you made an open-ended promise that you now refuse to honor...and here I thought the goal would be to encourage others ... first you, and then me, and then others on my ping list...to double our/their August donations...Apparently that wasn't your goal at all...twas simply to come in here with a huff and a puff and all smoke with promises of a full_blown blaze...instead hijacking the thread subject just so you could try to reinforce your personal ad hominens that the mod has to babysit your keyboard by yanking some of your posts on this thread...tainan was right about your tactics after all...


Now you have to lie about it. LOL, where is your name?

This was my second donation. I will be donating again tomorrow with another hundred. Probably will do it for a couple of days. I will ping your posse to the Freeper community that you have victimized with your spam with each donation.

Now I had just left the thread and you pinged me back. You are a liar at best. Well, actually not a very good one since everyone can follow your posting history and donations. You are welcome to look at mine all the way back. It is there.

Now how about getting it done, rather than flapping you lips and spamming threads.
105 posted on 08/01/2012 2:17:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer ("We're not programs, Gerty, We're People")
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To: PA Engineer; Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator; Colofornian; colorcountry; ejonesie22; ...
Probably will do it for a couple of days. I will ping your posse to the Freeper community that you have victimized with your spam with each donation.

Now I had just left the thread and you pinged me back. You are a liar at best. Well, actually not a very good one since everyone can follow your posting history and donations. You are welcome to look at mine all the way back. It is there.

Now how about getting it done, rather than flapping you lips and spamming threads.

So, has Jim Robinson made you the Chief of thread police without informing other FReepers?

You might want to take a look at the rules for the Religion Forum while you are making threats...it appears that you have broken just about all of them.

Link

Ad Hominems

The main guideline to posting on the Religion Forum: ”Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.”

Whereas posters may argue vigorously for and against beliefs on “open” Religion Forum threads it is never tolerable to use ad hominems in religious debate because they invariably lead to flame wars when the subject is one’s deeply held religious beliefs.

For something to be "making it personal" it must be speaking to another Freeper, personally.

"Protestants are heretics" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal. "Catholics worship Mary" is not making it personal. "You worship Mary" is making it personal. "Mormons worship many gods" is not making it personal. "You worship many gods" is making it personal.

However, when a poster paints with a brush that accuses an entire religion of criminal behavior - his post will be pulled as flame bait. For example, posts that say "Protestants kill babies" or "Catholics molest children" or "Mormons kill non-Mormons" will be pulled. However, if the post is specific about a non-Freeper, I will not pull it. For example "Rev. Doe says abortion and infanticide are not sin" or "Father Doe was convicted for molesting those kids" or "Mormons killed non-Mormons at Mountain Meadows" would not be pulled.

Statements formed as questions are rarely "making it personal."

"Are you a heretic" is not making it personal. "You are a heretic" is making it personal.

Forms of "making it personal" include mind reading, attributing motive, accusing another Freeper of telling a lie (because it attributes motive, the intent to deceive) - making the thread "about" individual Freeper(s), following a Freeper from thread to thread and badgering a Freeper over-and-again with the same question.

The words "prevarication" "dishonesty" "slander" "deceit" "calumny" and "subterfuge" are synonymous with "lie" because they entail intent.

Words such as "false" "error" "wrong" "inaccurate" "misstatement" do not attribute motive and are not "making it personal."

Other words push the envelope of motive but are not synonymous with "lie" for purposes of modding the RF. However, they can be "making it personal" if applied to another Freeper, personally, in such a way the discussion becomes "about" the individual Freeper instead of the issues. Those words include "misrepresentation" "detraction" "disinformation" "distortion" "hyperbole" and "doublespeak."

Another example, calling a group of Freepers "anti-Mormon" attributes motive to them as a group which is not technically "making it personal" - but saying that another Freeper, personally, is anti-Mormon instead of anti-MormonISM is an ad hominem. It is "making it personal."

Another example, a poster may say on an “open” RF thread that a particular belief, diety, religious authority, etc. is "Satanic." But he must not say "You are Satanic." That would be "making it personal." The Bible is always a legitimate source on the Religion Forum, so a poster might quote the Bible where Jesus called Peter "Satan." If a post serves no debate purpose (flame bait or 'making it personal' by devious means) - it would be pulled."

I have seen challenges made during FReepathons before, and even made one myself earlier this month...I have never seen the kind of hostility that is evident in your "challenge" before. That doesn't seem to be an effective way to convince people to donate to the FReepathon.

Congratulations. I believe that ou will probably be a star at the TrueBlueLosers site.

110 posted on 08/01/2012 4:41:44 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: PA Engineer
If you want to challenge other posters to make donations, that's fine. But if you do it on the Religion Forum, be sure to comply with the RF guidelines.

Among these are no ad hominems or as I usually put it: "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal."

Now you have to lie about it.

Accusing another Freeper of telling a lie attributes motive to him, i.e. the intent to decieve. It is "making it personal."

Words such as "false" "wrong" "error" do not attribute motive.

Click on my profile page for the guidelines to the Religion Forum.

120 posted on 08/01/2012 7:31:07 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: PA Engineer
I will be donating again tomorrow with another hundred.

Sigh...


Luke 18:11-12 EIV The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this freeloading Freeper. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

131 posted on 08/02/2012 5:21:25 AM PDT by Elsie
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