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To: Natural Law; johngrace; daniel1212

Catholics keep trying to share and from the heart, read the quotes and writings of the early Church Fathers, some of them knew the Apostles and second, you can’t take Church teaching or writings to come against the Church.

Here is a help. I was watching a conversion story told by
a former Pentecostal, Brent Stubbs, his family was Pentecostal, attended Assemblies of God, graduated from the big one, Oral Roberts University and was a youth pastor. It bothered Brent at Oral Roberts how two well known nationwide ministers got up on two separate days and each one preached something completely different. ??

Daniel1212, Brent states some of the things that helped him convert, he read the early Fathers and Scott Hahn’s Rome Sweet Home which totally destroys “Bible Alone.” And he could see after reading much on Catholicism, the tactic of anti-Catholics to take a bit of Church teaching or writing out of context to come against the Church. Take the time and watch or you could listen and look at other things on the Net. thanks.

Brent Stubbs, former Pentecostal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CypJuCjn5FE


55 posted on 07/23/2012 4:03:14 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio
"Here is a help."

The first thing we have to accept is that we, you and I and all other Christian posters, do not convert anyone. It is the Holy Spirit that converts and only at the moment of His choosing. All we can to is to prepare the way by prayer and the sharing of Grace through the Fruits and Gifts of the Holy Spirit. We have to be careful because, although we cannot convert anyone, we can certainly harden hearts and hinder the process.

Until someone opens their heart, their eyes, ears, and mind will remain closed. For those who have derived their spiritual identify from an opposition to "Rome" anything that is remotely Catholic is presumed to be false. As Jesus forgave his executioners from the cross because of their ignorance, so too is the ignorance of the anti-Catholics in need of forgiveness. Pray for them.

Peace be with you.

57 posted on 07/23/2012 4:47:58 PM PDT by Natural Law (Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.)
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