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To: ebb tide
“Aborted babies are rarely baptized before they are murdered.”

How do you baptize an unborn baby?

It's called sarcasm, a reasonably useful literary device at times.

Secondly, you should have no concern about whether that baby was baptized or not since the current “magisterium” (as Cardinal Ratzinger) has dissed the idea of Limbo of the Unborn. Makes it much easier for a mother to murder her child thinking he’ll go straight to Heaven rather than Limbo, since Limbo doesn’t exist.

That's not the teaching, but I've found that anyone very emotionally attached to a subject may arrive at any justification, grasp at any straw and lie like a Democratic politician in order to try to seem to support their decisions. However, I've known far too many who aborted their babies, and exactly none of them have shared this justification with me.

Do you not think this recent, and new, teaching of the magisterium has led to abortions, that would not have occurred otherwise without the above encouragement that all unborn babies go to Heaven?

Nope. I think that the encouragement of splitting from the Catholic Church and taking theological matters into one's own hands, rather than relying on the Magisterium for correct theological interpretation and instruction has endangered many souls. Were Luther, Zwingli and Calvin evil because of the their persuasive guidance away from the Church?

33 posted on 07/20/2012 8:01:49 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

“However, I’ve known far too many who aborted their babies, and exactly none of them have shared this justification with me.”

“Far too many”? Where do you meet these people, in your church?

I have stood outside abortion clinics, counseling pregnant woman. All of the ones who proceeded with the murder of their child either said, “It’s not a human” or “If it is a baby, he’ll go to Heaven”.

Thanks, Cardinal Ratzinger.


35 posted on 07/20/2012 8:32:56 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: MarkBsnr
Nope. I think that the encouragement of splitting from the Catholic Church and taking theological matters into one's own hands, rather than relying on the Magisterium for correct theological interpretation and instruction has endangered many souls.

That's the most awkward and inept attempt to deflect a topic I have ever seen. Congrats!

But, since you've jumped the rails already, what theological principles are in dispute? And since when does one delve into what you call "theological interpretation".

It's very spooky when one talks about "interpreting" theology. Are you a Jesuit?

36 posted on 07/20/2012 9:13:33 PM PDT by ebb tide
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