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To: albionin

—No. First of all you can see and talk to your wife. Second weather or not your wife’s diary contained lies does not have any bearing on her existence. That is a silly analogy.—

You are correct. I didn’t go into detail. The background is that I can’t see my wife and I’m permanently stranded on a desert island and have nothing but my birthday suit. And the natives have never had contact with mankind outside the island.

If they refuse to believe she exists I have nothing to offer as proof. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t exist though.

If this woman truly rejects God it means she was never a Christian in the first place.


28 posted on 07/12/2012 12:09:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

True. It does not mean that she does not exist. It also means they would have no objective way of knowing she exists and would have to take your word for it. Then imagine a different scenario. You don’t speak of your wife at all but instead tell them that they are evil by nature because someone a long time ago did something to fall from the grace of some god. For this they are to be punished unless they take your word for it that this god exists and that they are not worthy and can never do anything to be worthy of living and the only way to live is to admit their guilt and ask for forgiveness and serve this God, whose purpose they are not to question because their human reasoning minds are impudent to know reality and to deal with it. And if they don’t believe they will die. Then suppose in this analogy you are not stark naked but have a single possession; a two thousand year old book which claims to be the only truth. There are some logical problems with the premises of the book but you tell them that faith is superior to their feeble reasoning ability and that those parts that don’t seem to make sense must be accepted on faith. And if they don’t accept them on faith they will die.

Can you not see that a rational person could look at the evidence and come to a different conclusion.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 12:36:00 PM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's aye gettin.)
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