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To: muawiyah

yes, he left the congregation in jersusalem, with peter in charge....as he ordained earlier....

the first century is rife with important history, why this gets ignored is fairly obvious....read over Faith of the Fathers, who in their writings from that very era, show the utter catholicity and the kernels of the beginnings of the church, magesterium, and sacred tradition, that the the guiding hallmark of His church today.


142 posted on 07/03/2012 12:45:37 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan
You don't get into the rules for missionaries until the late 2nd century though ~ long after this period. Back when there were a poverty in numbers, they didn't need that stuff. To staff foreign missions properly they did. At some point you have an established church full of responsible adult Christians and rules for missionaries are no longer appropriate.

I know, that was a long time ago, but when the end of the world happened in 535 AD stuff got delayed. It was so bad Jain missionaries came to Europe to teach ahemsa ~

148 posted on 07/03/2012 12:49:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: raygunfan
The First Century is all right there ~ the Second Century shows up in other works later on ~ remember, the Temple at Jerusalem ~ even the city of Jerusalem ~ wasn't destroyed until 70 AD.

About the time the instructions for how to operate a Christian mission come along (with a church hierarchy identified by office and responsibilities) you had already had the Bar Kokhba revolt.

Once that happened and Christians and other Jews were prohibited entry into Jerusalem except one day a year, other things occupied the minds of believers.

Noting that one of the earliest missions, Antioch, was where they were first called Christians ~ See: Acts 11:26 King James Version (KJV), it makes historic sense for the missionary way of life to have come to dominate the total structure of the church and just in time. The Romans finally expelled the Jews they could catch in the second century.

BTW, St. Peter himself is supposed to have founded the Antioch mission church anyway. They lay a claim on primacy on that basis.

Like I said, the original ambition was to recreate a first century Christianity and church order. They instead, adopted a second century Christianity and church order with elders and deacons at the congregational level.

166 posted on 07/03/2012 1:13:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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