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1 posted on 07/03/2012 9:31:43 AM PDT by Teófilo
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PING!


2 posted on 07/03/2012 9:33:35 AM PDT by Teófilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Teófilo
There is a sort of logical error in using Bible scripture to argue sola scriptura is not Biblical.

Anyone catch that?

I mean, really, why would anyone believe the argument!

I"m returning to the counting of the angels on the head of this pin ~ should keep me occupied for a good long while too.

3 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Teófilo

balderdash


4 posted on 07/03/2012 9:38:55 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Teófilo

What about the “zombie-dogma” that Peter was the first pope?


5 posted on 07/03/2012 9:39:11 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Iscool
Just in case you decide to come over to the right side.
BTW I still have that CD from Tim Staples about how Jimmy Swaggert made him Catholic
6 posted on 07/03/2012 9:43:30 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader believes in home schooling....Think about it.)
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To: Teófilo

I dunno. Sola Scriptura sounds foreign.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 9:44:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Teófilo

I can’t remember-

Which commandment was it again that said “Thou shalt create a huge bureacracy, and fill it with paperwork and rules, that thou shalt feverishly argue upon, in my name.”


14 posted on 07/03/2012 9:51:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (OBAMA MUST BE STOPPED ROMNEY/GINGRICH)
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To: Teófilo

Who needs the Bible when I can get “God told me...” from those like Pat Robertson.


17 posted on 07/03/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by MNDude ( Victimhood is the Holy Grail of liberalism)
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To: Teófilo

Sola Scriptura was one of the cardinal doctrines of the Protestant Reformation. Norman Geiser rejects reformed theology, so he is hardly the best advocate for Sola Scriptura. Regardless, I’d trust his views over the silly misunderstandings and intentional mischaracterizations of papists.

I am scared for those who place their eternal soul in the traditions and opinions of pedophile priests, blowhard bishops, crooked cardinals, and pompous pontiffs. I reject popery in all forms. Scripture, and Scripture alone, is my final authority.


22 posted on 07/03/2012 10:18:38 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Teófilo

Biblical arguments for Zombies? Well, at least we only have to worry about Protestant Zombies, they are most likely less of a threat than Moslem Zombies.


25 posted on 07/03/2012 10:21:52 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Teófilo
The Roman "church" again rejects the WORD of YHvH :
Yah'shua HaMashiach.

Replacing it with Man-Made Tradition based on Eisegesis.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

32 posted on 07/03/2012 10:27:02 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Teófilo

When I was going from Catholic lay reader to Lutheran church member, my Catholic coworkers at a Catholic hospital asked me why I was reading the Bible. Never forgot that. It amazed me at the time and still does. Sola scriptura no matter what articles people post on FR!


37 posted on 07/03/2012 10:31:04 AM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: Teófilo

No biggy. This is just satan again, trying to negate The Word Of God. When he can’t do that he downplays it. When he can’t manage that, he counterfeits it. He’s even tried to say that the word of men is just as good.


41 posted on 07/03/2012 10:37:42 AM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Teófilo

Living Constitution — got us abortion, gay rights, and a police state out of what was once the most God-fearing Christian nation in the world.

Sola Scriptura is not a dogma. It is a reasoned preference for the sanctity of the text over the “Living Text” creations of both of the major traditionalist religions (Eastern Orthodox and Catholic). Given that the Easterns clearly have a better claim to historicity, primacy, and a more accurate text than the vulgate, I’d be more inclined to back their traditionalist claims than yours. But I don’t have to go there. You have the Justice Breyer interpretation of scripture. Until Christ or St. Paul show up telling me to ignore the text in favor of something else, all of these purported arguments against sola scriptura are just silly.


58 posted on 07/03/2012 10:54:54 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Teófilo

Says the guy who worships a man with a funny hat and eats magic crackers and drinks magic wine.


79 posted on 07/03/2012 11:21:57 AM PDT by bethelgrad
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To: Teófilo
Folks who pretend they believe in Scripture Alone really only believe in a subset of Scripture and interpret that subset any way they like to fit their personal agenda and preferences.

The subset they do accept is what Luther couldn't get away with throwing out to avoid what the Church had taught for over fifteen hundred years. The only reason Luther didn't insist that Hebrews, James, Jude, Revelation, and other portions of the NT had to be throw out is because his buddy Phil reminded him they were going to have to defend their point of view before the German nobility. Luther knew he'd never convince the nobles to accept his throwing out parts of the New Testament.

If someone really believes in the doctrine of Scripture Alone they should be honest enough to reincorporate the portion of the Old Testament Luther threw out or to throw out the portions of the New Testament Luther said were worthless. Otherwise they, like Luther, are just making up whatever sort of interpretation it takes to twist Scripture into agreeing with what they've decided they want believe instead of honestly trying to align what they believe with Scripture. If that were not the case then the Luther originated hokum about his just agreeing with a Jewish council from the around the year 100 would be seen for the diversion and it really is. Someone who rejected the centuries old Christian canon to align themselves with Jewish survivors of the revolt against Rome, survivors who were dedicated to stamping out Christianity and murdering Christians, and who eliminated those Scripture because they so clearly supported what the Christians were teaching, isn't the sort of person people should be relying on as the highest authority on their faith. And yes, no matter how people shout and wave their arms, the entire Scripture Alone crowd accepts Luther as their highest authority in matters of Faith, not Jesus Christ who never once mentioned that there was anything wrong with the Septuagint that the was the guide for what should be in the Old Testament.

If the Scripture Alone folks didn't hold Luther in higher regard than Christ in matters of Faith they'd still be using the entire Old Testament rather than a subset of it. If they even really believed in the doctrine of Scripture Alone rather than believing it's a good smokescreen they'd preach that since Scripture is their only authority, and Scripture in no way points to Luther coming along, but Scripture does indicate that the Holy Spirit protects His Word, Luther must be a heretic for wanting to throw out portions of the Old Testament. Since that would make the personal interpretations of the sort that rationalize ordaining queers and whatever else some folks want to do much more difficult, though, they just ignore Scripture Alone when it's convenient to do so which just shows that the whole ball of wax is a smokescreen to keep from facing the Truth.

An awful lot of people who think they're good Christians are going to find out that they've been a party to removing and denying the truth of a portion of His Word. They'll be finding that out right before they hear, "I never knew you" from the very Jesus Christ they deny was capable of defending and keeping the Scriptures intact without the help of Luther who waddled in fifteen hundred years later and straightened out what Christ couldn't straighten out.

have a nice day

86 posted on 07/03/2012 11:32:11 AM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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To: Teófilo

The proliferation of “zombie” insults does not lend perceptions of credibility nor sincerity to the author.


99 posted on 07/03/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Teófilo

Ping for later ...


328 posted on 07/04/2012 5:16:31 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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