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To: Springfield Reformer
“Have I got that right?”

Uh, No. Basically what I am saying is that the testimony of eyewitnesses who had direct personal exposure to the physical text, and who were dedicated and recognized experts in the field of manuscript analysis, and had been so for multiple decades, differ with the respected Master Clarke and that such differing testimony is now my uncredentialed opinion after seeing what you may correctly surmise to be a digital or analog photograph, which of course would be unlikely to capture such subtleties as the indentation of the material where the proposed Theta should have it’s middle bar and so forth but nevertheless does and confirms the opinions of other experts besides the highly respected Clarke.

As is so often the case experts differ in their conclusions when looking at the same evidence and we lesser mortals, that would you and I, are left to form our own uncredentialed opinions based upon whose testimony seems most likely to be so.

As to a jury...forget it! I would rather deal with bias and ignorance of one judge than the bias and ignorance of twelve jurors.

564 posted on 07/21/2012 5:17:41 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

With respect to Codex A, I am glad to see you agree with the essential point Clarke was making, that the history of Codex A with respect to 1 Tim 3:16 is sufficiently clouded that it should be barred from giving testimony for either side, as to that issue.

As for the Vulgate, it is a late work, relative to the God-breathed autographs, and a mere translation, instructive, but not a final authority in itself. Who know? When all you’ve got to work with is “OC,” give or take a par of faint horizontal lines, the possibility of a mistake by Jerome or one of his predecessors cannot be dismissed out of hand.

As for any more than that, I believe a full and fair analysis of the manuscript history for “theos” in 1 Tim 3:16 is beyond the technical range of either of us, and would keep us off any other topics for years to come. I believe the excellent pedigree of the Byzantine textform recommends we should generally defer to it’s readings in this and any other given case, but especially in this particular case, where Codex A has been discredited as a conclusive witness for either side.

Peace,

SR


566 posted on 07/21/2012 12:15:58 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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