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To: NKP_Vet; metmom; boatbums
>> They included Tobit, Baruch, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach), 1 Maccabees, and 2 Maccabees. Roman Catholics call these books deuterocanonical.<<

Yeah, let’s look at some of the problems with those books you claim were inspired by the Holy Spirit and who you say the Bishops were “under the guidance of the Holy Spirit that sorted out and decided the canon of Sacred Scripture.”

Tobit claims to have been alive when Jeroboam revolted in 931 B.C. and 210 years later when Assyria conquered Israel in 721 B.C. Then it says in Tobit 14 that he was 112 when he died. Oops!

In Judith we find an error of who Nebuchadnezzar was King of.

Judith 1:1 While King Nebuchadnezzar was ruling over the Assyrians from his capital city of Nineveh,

Nebuchadnezzar didn’t rule over the Assyrians he was King over Babylonia.

2 Kings 24:1 While Jehoiakim was king, King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylonia invaded Judah

According to the two Books of Maccabees, which one of the three places did Antiochus Epiphanes actually die in? Did he actually die three different times in three different places?

Do you believe the following from Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)?

Ecclesiasticus 25:19 Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity.
Ecclesiasticus 22:3 It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined, and the birth of a daughter is a loss.

Do you believe a female birth is a loss to parents or do you believe what it says in Psalms?

Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

Do you believe there is no hope for children born out of wedlock?

Wisdom 3:16-19 But children of adulterers will not come to maturity, and the offspring of an unlawful union will perish. Even if they live long they will be held of no account, and finally their old age will be without honor. If they die young, they will have no hope and no consolation on the day of judgment. For the end of an unrighteous generation is grievous.

Or do you believe the following?

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Wisdom 6:17 says, "The beginning of wisdom is the most sincere desire for instruction." but in Proverbs 9 it says this.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Which is it?

Wisdom 6:24 says, "The multitude of the wise is the salvation of the world," but in Timothy 4:10 it says “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Again, which is it?

Why would anyone rely on books with obvious errors? The Holy Spirit inspired books have never been shown to have errors. The Catholic Church uses books with obvious errors to try to prop up their own errors.

Here’s what the CC says about you not believing every word of the apocrypha since they say it’s part of the canon of the RCC.

If anyone does not accept as sacred and canonical the aforesaid books in their entirety and with all their parts, as they have been accustomed to be read in the Catholic Church and as they are contained in the Old Latin Vulgate Edition, and knowingly and deliberately rejects the aforesaid traditions, let him be anathema. [H. J. Schroeder, Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, Original Text with English Translation (St Louis and London: B. Herder, 1941), P 18.]

If the Holy Spirit inspired the writing of those books and then guided the Bishops why didn’t He catch those errors and inconsistencies? I’ll give you a hint. They aren’t inspired by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit didn’t guide the Bishops when they included them.

194 posted on 06/15/2012 6:44:35 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

“They aren’t inspired by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit didn’t guide the Bishops when they included them”

So you don’t believe in the New Testament. At least you admit it.


204 posted on 06/15/2012 8:58:46 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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