Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Quake reveals day of Jesus' crucifixion, researchers believe
MSNBC ^ | 5/24/2012 | Jennifer Viegas

Posted on 05/24/2012 8:35:52 PM PDT by caldera599

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last
To: linedrive

The Sabbath is on a Saturday by definition.
Steps were taken (breaking legs, stabbing Christ with a spear to ensure they didn’t have to bother breaking His) to get the crucifixions over with so they could remove & bury the bodies before Sabbath. While it may not say which day per se, that they were in “hurry up and get this over with” mode by mid-afternoon points to being the day before Sabbath - to wit Friday.

(It’s 3:18AM, so my brain is muddled. Correct me if I’m wrong.)


21 posted on 05/25/2012 12:19:21 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Cloud storage? Dropbox rocks! Sign up at http://db.tt/nQqWGd3 for 2GB free (and I get more too).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: caldera599; CynicalBear; patlin
Kinda puts a nail into Sabbatarian Christianity eh?

yup.

Reading for you, CB, Pat

22 posted on 05/25/2012 1:39:26 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caldera599

“If the last possibility is true, this would mean that the report of an earthquake in the Gospel of Matthew is a type of allegory,” they write.

If the Gospel says it happened, it happened.


23 posted on 05/25/2012 4:10:44 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caldera599
Interesting how myths can be so infiltrated into our belief system that we give up seeking the truth in favor of dogma. Jesus was not crucified on a "friday"....that is a total invention of the anti-semetic church of the late 1st century. According to the Bible and contrary to the common error that is passed on as fact, Jesus died on a wednesday at the end of the Passover celebration. He was in the grave for three whole days as He said he would be and he arose early at the start of the 4th day - Sunday.

The teaching of the bible is clear (and remarkable), unlike the junk that has been passed down through the years as church "history." The mis-understanding has to do with the fact that the "high holy" sabbath at the end of passover (John 19:31) had nothing to due with "saturday." Every Jew would know that......but then who cares what the Jews think........right Ignacius?...../sarc

24 posted on 05/25/2012 4:16:20 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: caldera599

What is surprising is that MSNBC is admitting that there was a Jesus and that he was crucified.


25 posted on 05/25/2012 4:44:57 AM PDT by Venturer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cronos

I have no idea what you are referencing.


26 posted on 05/25/2012 5:02:44 AM PDT by CynicalBear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: wesagain
According to the Bible and contrary to the common error that is passed on as fact, Jesus died on a wednesday at the end of the Passover celebration.

I don't think "Ignacius" had much to say on the issue.

The Scripture says the women went to anoint the body on the morning of the "first day of the week". They wouldn't have waited (or been able to wait) 4 whole days to do that. (cf Lazarus ... "he has been in the tomb 3 days, surely there will be a stench") The reason they waited was because the day before, and only the day before, was a Sabbath. That means that there was only that one day intervening between Jesus' death and Sunday morning. If there had been another non-Sabbath day in between, they would have anointed him then.

27 posted on 05/25/2012 5:10:33 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: JRandomFreeper

The Julian calendar of 45 BC did not have ordinal days of the week. A “week” is strictly a Jewish concept. The Greeks didn’t even have a word for it, and thus transliterated Sabbath straight from the Hebrew to translate the bible into Greek. To this day, the Greek word is literally merely, “sevens” (Hebtomada), and in Latin, “seven days” (Septomana)

The concept of “week” entered Roman culture only with the spread of Judaism and Christianity. And yes, even while they still used the Julian calendar, those Romans who counted days of the week counted “Yom Rishon” (the first day) as Dies Solis (Sunday).


28 posted on 05/25/2012 7:04:04 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Campion

Do you know what day Passover begins on?


29 posted on 05/25/2012 9:43:55 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus

It wasn’t “gas” that killed the firstborn, it was the Angel of Death. Besides, if it had been some low-concentration poisonous gas, it would have been more likely to kill the youngest children than the eldest.


30 posted on 05/25/2012 1:00:58 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: linedrive

I don’t think the Gospels ever specifically say it was on Friday, but it is an inference from the timing of events. Mainly, interpreting the Last Supper as a Passover feast, which would take place on Thursday after sundown, and noting that the body needed to be taken down and entombed in a hurry, because that kind of work could not be done on a Sabbath. So, if those two events are the “bookends”, then the trial, passion, and cruxifixion all need to fit between sunup on Friday and sundown on Friday.


31 posted on 05/25/2012 1:07:37 PM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

I’m not trying to “debunk” the Bible, I’m just discussing the practical explanations for the story of Exodus.


32 posted on 05/25/2012 2:27:20 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useless and useful idiots.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Fledermaus

There’s no need for “practical” explanations unless you doubt God. What’s the “practical” explanation for a man born from a virgin? A miracle is by definition not practical.


33 posted on 05/29/2012 5:30:58 AM PDT by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Cronos; caldera599; CynicalBear
Haven't been on in a long time due to studies and it seems nothing has changed. The lies continue.

I put my trust in the Word of God, not geologists who do not know how to or take time to study the Word of God which gives us very specific details as to the day of the week Messiah died. According to Scripture, the Passover lamb had to be inspected “IN” the House of God (the Temple) for 4 days prior to being sacrificed and thus since Messiah became the final Passover lamb, according to Scripture, he had to be inspected in the House of his Father (the Temple) for 4 days by the priests prior to his offering himself up for our sins. (Ex 12:3-6, Mt 21-26, Mk 11-14, Lk 19-22)

When one studies the ENTIRE Word of God as a whole, not just the final 1/3 of the book in isolationist fashion, that is to pick out a verse and make it mean what one wants it to mean, many hidden treasures pop out that normally wouldn't unless one has an understanding of the prophesy of the Savior given through Moses. Yes, Moses also believed in the Savior. He knew the true promised land is the land under the rule & reign of Messiah as King.(Heb 11:24-26)

Moses reveals it all, One Shepard, One House, One Word of God from the beginning throughout all eternity. The Messiah is all over the books of Genesis through Deuteronomy. Waiting there for all who have it in their hearts to humble themselves, pray, seek God's face and turn back to His Way (2 Chron 7:14; Ps 119)

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Joh 11:49 And one of them, Caiaphas, being high priest that year, said to them, “You know nothing at all, 50 nor do you consider that it is expedient for us that one man should die for the people, and not that the whole nation should perish.”
Joh 11:51 Now this he did not say on his own authority; but being high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the nation (Judea), 52 and not for that nation only, but also that He would gather together in one the children of God who were scattered abroad. 53 Then, from that day on, they plotted to put Him to death.
Joh 11:54 Therefore Jesus no longer walked openly among the Jews, but went from there into the country near the wilderness, to a city called Ephraim (Gen 48:19, Rm 11:25), and there remained with His disciples.

Jas 1:1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad: Greetings.

Joh 7:35 Then the Jews said among themselves, “Where does He intend to go that we shall not find Him? Does He intend to go to the Dispersion among the Greeks and teach the Greeks?

1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the pilgrims of the Dispersion

34 posted on 07/22/2012 6:04:38 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Cronos; caldera599; CynicalBear
FYI for those interested in learning the true calendar of God as it was during the time the Word of God tabernacled with men.

Time: Our Creators Calendar
http://vimeo.com/36969830

The Error of Dispensationalism
http://vimeo.com/45351118

35 posted on 07/22/2012 6:23:07 PM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: patlin; caldera599; dangus

caldera599, dangus — the newfangled Sabatorians with their modern re-interpretations won’t believe God’s word or anything else but what their cult leaders tell them...


36 posted on 07/23/2012 1:50:45 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-36 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson