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Iran: Discovery will collapse Christianity [Barf Alert}
WND ^ | May 24, 2012 | Reza Kahlili

Posted on 05/24/2012 8:35:47 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: MHGinTN

yup your are correct... sorry my feeble brain just went into you have got to be kidding mode


41 posted on 05/24/2012 12:40:10 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: BikerJoe
Barnabas predicts the coming of Mohammad and Islam...

Not much gets past him; does it!

Actually; Barney is a bit late:

Matthew 24:24

For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect--if that were possible.


42 posted on 05/24/2012 1:17:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BikerJoe
I AM however aware that the timeline of events surrounding the return of their "Mahdi" is 1 to 1 with the timeline of events associated with the AntiChrist of Revelations.

I am NOT aware of any antichrist being mentioned at all in Revelation.

43 posted on 05/24/2012 1:21:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
I am NOT aware of any antichrist being mentioned at all in Revelation.

My mistake. The False Prophet.
44 posted on 05/24/2012 1:36:29 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Elsie

Are you speaking of Mohammad or one Jos. Smith?


45 posted on 05/24/2012 2:12:37 PM PDT by Gamecock
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To: svcw
American liberalism has destroyed much of Christianity in this nation. Sadly many conservatives have be turned by this slow manipulation of various churches by a liberal clergy into the “kymbaya, all paths are right” Oprah style Christianity.

They will read “no one comes unto the Father except through me” in the Bible they say they follow, and in turn look down on a Christian who says that those outside the faith are condemned because its “mean”and "hateful"...

46 posted on 05/25/2012 4:11:48 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: svcw
American liberalism has destroyed much of Christianity in this nation. Sadly many conservatives have be turned by this slow manipulation of various churches by a liberal clergy into the “kymbaya, all paths are right” Oprah style Christianity.

They will read “no one comes unto the Father except through me” in the Bible they say they follow, and in turn look down on a Christian who says that those outside the faith are condemned because its “mean”and "hateful"...

47 posted on 05/25/2012 4:12:09 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Gamecock
The mullahs had best be careful.

*If* they could establish a provenance for the "Gospel of Barnabas" in the 5th-6th century, that would mean it wasn't a 15th C. Islamic forgery, but yet-another heretical "gnostic gospel".

That would mean that the basic Muslim apologetic against Christianity is really the product of a cultic offshoot from Christianity, a heresy, which preceded Mohammed by maybe a century. And if it can be shown that Mohammed borrowed part of Islam from some Christian heresy, why not the whole thing? Suddenly he's not a prophet, just a plagiarist.

48 posted on 05/25/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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“Suddenly he’s not a prophet, just a plagiarist.”

The three “P’s” - Plagiarist, Pedophile, POS.

Just like the Dems in Congress and the Executive branch...
...they plagiarize The Communist Manifesto
...they are pedophiles, stealing the heritage that would be our children’s and our grandchildren’s
...and everyone of them is a POS


49 posted on 05/25/2012 5:29:55 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Gamecock

By muslim standards one would have expected Adam and Eve to have been islamic too...which could explain though how things got so screwed up.


50 posted on 05/25/2012 5:31:14 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: dragonblustar; svcw
The "Gospel of Barnabas" has Jesus saying that he's not the Son of God, and says that Jesus didn't really die on the Cross, as well as prophesying Mohammed's coming.

Probably written in Spain by Muslims in the 14th or 15th Century in an effort to convert Catholics to their side. Not written by Christians, doesn't teach Christianity, not compatible with it at all.

51 posted on 05/25/2012 5:31:55 AM PDT by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: Gamecock
Are you speaking of Mohammad or one Jos. Smith?

I am speaking of nothing; but the BIBLE is 'speaking' in PLURAL; so both of these dead 'prophets', the ones we have now and the FUTURE ones are ALL covered.

52 posted on 05/25/2012 12:01:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ejonesie22
They will read “no one comes unto the Father except through me” in the Bible they say they follow, and in turn look down on a Christian who says that those outside the faith are condemned because its “mean”and "hateful"...

But of COURSE!!!

Just look what MORMONism has ALREADY said about us!




Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

53 posted on 05/25/2012 12:04:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Campion
Not written by Christians, doesn't teach Christianity, not compatible with it at all.

HMMmmm...

I've heard SOMETHING like that before!

54 posted on 05/25/2012 12:13:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Campion
I've heard SOMETHING like that before!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2883663/posts?page=50#50

55 posted on 05/25/2012 12:18:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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