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I am well versed in AA, having been involved to some extent for over 30 years. However, not all AA teaching is true and AA is not what it once was.

For example, in the doctors opinion, it states that the body of the “Alcholic” is quite as abnormal as his mind. There have been numerous theories set forward to ‘prove” this over the years, but it has NEVER been proven . AA’s are fond of making a distinction between a “real alcoholic” and a “heavy drinker”. It has never been proven.

In The Doctors Opinion it states that “these allergic types can never safely alcohol in any form”. It’s never been proven that alcoholics have an allergy. The studies (quoted at length in the book “Heavy Drinking The Myth of Alchoholism as as Disease” show that in fact that is not true.

Furthermore, the entire Spirituality of AA is called into question by its acceptance of homosexuality. Gay meetings abound. The newest edition of the Big Book even contains the story of an unrepentant homosexual activists (Tightrope). That kind of so called spirituality isn’t going to help anyone.

In many respects, AA is a place to go to get brainwashed. Not a place to go for a spiritual awakening. At least that is my experience with over 30 years in AA. I write about all this in my book btw.

Sorry. My experience drastically differs from yours, and my opinions are 180 degrees in contrast to yours. AA and NA saved my ass, then God saved my soul.

The only thing I'll observe that you might agree with, is that they can only get you so far. I've grown more than AA and NA have to offer.

Regarding brainwashing ... you know what, when I first showed up, my brain NEEDED a little scrubbing.

One last point: "In The Doctors Opinion it states that “these allergic types can never safely alcohol in any form”. It’s never been proven that alcoholics have an allergy."

Y'all taking that comment too literally. The Allergy is a metaphor for an intense mental reaction that takes place in the alcoholic mind when a drink is taken. This reaction is something that I have personally experienced. All your protestations to the contrary won't be able to sway me, because of my experience.

If you have not personally had this experience, then you are definitely not an alcoholic.

One MORE last thing (LOL): Throughout your respond to me, you constantly use the phrase "It has never been proven".

Yet your initial post speaks of demons (implying that you believe in God).

So, I remind you: God and demons have never been proven.

Yet they work for you.

So does AA, and God, for me.

Q.E.D.