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To: boatbums; johngrace; mitch5501
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All due respect. You are so wrong.

This is addressed to Christians. This is without a doubt about individual sins.

He is addresses it in the letter for a reason. He has to definitely point it out. This why it is in scripture. To minimize it is wrong.

James 5

The Prayer of Faith

13" Is anyone among you in trouble? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. 15 And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have SINNED, they will be forgiven. 16 Therefore CONFESS Your SINS to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."

He is pointing out what is most important at times. How you can not see that is amazing. Or just minimize it.

Jesus open up all our eyes on what we all need from thee!

AMEN!!

159 posted on 04/19/2012 11:22:44 PM PDT by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass , Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: johngrace
"This is without a doubt about individual sins."

Dear Brother,who in the wide world of sports is denying this?

"He is pointing out what is most important at times. How you can not see that is amazing. Or just minimize it."

We do see it johngrace,I'm just not following how you go from this to no assurance of salvation.

This is also important,not "at times" but ALL the time..."This is the work of God,that ye believe on Him whom He has sent" (John 6:29)...so that "ye may KNOW that ye have eternal life"

161 posted on 04/19/2012 11:33:31 PM PDT by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: johngrace; boatbums; mitch5501
This is addressed to Christians. This is without a doubt about individual sins.

If you're calling them Christians, they ARE saved.

Individual sins committed after being born again do not cause us to lose our salvation. They break the fellowship with God that He would like to have with us. They may make us ineffective in our ministry. They may cause us to lose our reward in heaven. They may cause others to stumble. But they do NOT damn us.

The damnation for our sins was dealt with on the cross. If you don't think so then what you are essentially saying is that the cross wasn't and isn't sufficient.

187 posted on 04/20/2012 1:31:37 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: johngrace; mitch5501
All due respects, YOU are wrong.

This is addressed to Christians. This is without a doubt about individual sins. He is addresses it in the letter for a reason. He has to definitely point it out. This why it is in scripture. To minimize it is wrong.

Who's minimizing? I already stated that we MUST come before God in repentance, admitting we are sinners and cannot save ourselves. When James speaks about Christians who battle the old nature that remains after the new birth, he is speaking by revelation of God, so rather than toss out so many other passages of Scripture that teach we are NOT saved by NOT sinning (AKA "being good"), look at the context and objectively look at his point. If we say we have not or do not sin, we deceive WHO? ourselves - because neither those around us, and certainly not God, is deceived. We can seldom hide our true actions from those close to us and God sees ALL secret things - we cannot hide from Him. We recognize the fact of our sin nature, repent of specific sin - that does so easily beset us -, confess it before God - which means "name it like He names it" (come clean)- and resolve to continue in renewed fellowship with others and God, cleansed from all unrighteousness and walking in truth. Your error is in thinking this is somehow speaking about our eternal destiny. THAT has already been resolved the moment we came to saving faith in Christ. James is talking to saved Christians and teaching them and us how to deal with ongoing sin in our lives.

I pray for your spiritual eyes to be opened to the blessing that comes from believing God and receiving the gift of everlasting life He offers to all by grace through faith. The assurance HE desires for us causes us to see Him as our loving Heavenly Father and that makes us want to please Him and honor Him with our lives - out of gratitude for what he has done for us.

205 posted on 04/20/2012 9:44:28 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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