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To: stpio; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; ...

I have bad news for you. Any apparition which is saying this is NOT Mary.

It’s not Mary who is going to crush the serpent’s head, it’s Jesus.


93 posted on 04/14/2012 10:07:18 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“It’s not Mary who is going to crush the serpent’s head, it’s Jesus.”

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metmom,

The Latin Vulgate, the first Bible says “she” not “He” or “It.”

Everything is by God’s power, His Will, no on disagrees. It is by Christ’s power that Mary crushes the head of the serpent. If you say no, you have to explain...

How come the “woman” battles with the serpent in Revelation,
Chapter 12? Why doesn’t it say “It” or the masculine “He”,
why aren’t we reading the serpent battles the “man” Jesus?

Satan is called the serpent or the dragon.

Look at verse 13, “man” is mentioned once....

It says the “dragon” persecutes the “woman” who gives birth to the man child...

A lessor meaning for the “woman” is the Church, see why.
The Church didn’t give birth to Christ, Mary did.

Revelation 6:6-17
[6] And the WOMAN fled into the wilderness, where she had a place prepared by God, that there they should feed her a thousand two hundred sixty days. [7] And there was a great battle in heaven, Michael and his angels fought with the DRAGON, and the DRAGON fought and his angels: [8] And they prevailed not, neither was their place found any more in heaven. [9] And that great DRAGON was cast out, that old SERPENT, who is called the DEVIL and SATAN, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. [10] And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying: Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: because the accuser of our brethren is cast forth, who accused them before our God day and night.

[11] And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of the testimony, and they loved not their lives unto death. [12] Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you that dwell therein. Woe to the earth, and to the sea, because the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time. [13] And when the DRAGON saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the WOMAN, who brought forth the man child: [14] And there were given to the WOMAN two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the desert unto her place, where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time, from the face of the SERPENT. [15] And the SERPENT cast out of his mouth after the WOMAN, water as it were a river; that he might cause her to be carried away by the river.

[16] And the earth helped the WOMAN, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the river, which the dragon cast out of his mouth. [17] And the DRAGON was angry against the WOMAN: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

http://www.drbo.org/


96 posted on 04/14/2012 11:36:32 PM PDT by stpio
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To: metmom

Amen, while the official Roman Catholic Bible for America translates this,

“I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They will strike at your head, while you strike at their heel.”

The official American Catholic Bible, while while briefly explaining that one view is that Mary is to be the one who crushes, states in its notes,

“The snake was identified with the devil (Wis 2:24; Jn 8:44; Rev 12:9; 20:2), whose eventual defeat seemed implied in the verse. Because “the Son of God was revealed to destroy the works of the devil” (1 Jn 3:8), the passage was understood as the first promise of a redeemer for fallen humankind, the protoevangelium. Irenaeus of Lyons (ca. A.D. 130–200), in his Against Heresies 5.21.1, followed by several other Fathers of the Church, interpreted the verse as referring to Christ, and cited Gal 3:19 and 4:4 to support the reference. http://www.usccb.org/bible/genesis/3


104 posted on 04/15/2012 12:29:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: metmom; stpio
It’s not Mary who is going to crush the serpent’s head, it’s Jesus.

Correct. Also, the passage in Genesis isn't talking about Mary at all - the one whom God puts at "enmity" between the serpent (Satan). It, like the passage in Revelation which speaks of the woman in labor that Satan (the dragon) pursues into the wilderness, is speaking of Israel. Jesus comes from the Jews and Satan has ALWAYS been at enmity with them. His design is always to thwart God's plan of redemption.

120 posted on 04/15/2012 5:17:26 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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