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To: Bryanw92
So, thanks for insulting me and then forcing me to look it up so I learned the whole story when I was going to be content to just hear the RC version!

This is a bizarre remark -- but whatever. I thought the link provided by Campion was pretty concise.

Here's something for you to ponder: The Lord said to Abraham, "I will make you a great nation..." Well, not exactly: "The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say "and to seeds," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," meaning one person, who is Christ."

Thus, you see, Abraham and "his seed" are one. In fact, Paul is arguing here that the Lord made the promise to Christ, even though he said it, literally, to Abraham. Abraham and his seed are one, just as Mary and her seed are one.

The links on this thread show it both ways: "She will crush his head" and "He [her offspring or seed]will crush his head"

You're arguing about the difference between an a flower and a bud, straining out the gnat and swallowing the camel.

You might as well face it, for it is a biological fact: No Mary, no Jesus.

44 posted on 04/13/2012 6:33:45 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (I think in about 5 - no, 4 - years I'll have had enough.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>>I thought the link provided by Campion was pretty concise.

It was. Campion was very helpful.

>>You might as well face it, for it is a biological fact: No Mary, no Jesus.

True. Also true: No Mom, no me. But, my boss doesn’t send my paycheck to my mother.


47 posted on 04/13/2012 6:46:59 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: the invisib1e hand

You might as well face it, for it is a biological fact: No Mary, no Jesus.


Jesus said “Before Abraham, I am. Who came first, Mary or Jesus?

In other words, since Jesus was present at creation, did Mary predate creation?


55 posted on 04/13/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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