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To: stpio
I care little about the thread topic. If you stick around for a while you'll learn that many threads veer off into different directions. Free Republic makes no pretense of being a classic debate forum.

My interest is in pointing out your selected use of "facts" and the liberties taken to buttress your far from unanimous interpretation.

For example:

CCC
411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross”, makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.305 FURTHERMORE, MANY FATHERS AND DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH HAVE SEEN THE WOMAN ANNOUNCED IN THE PROTOEVANGEIUM AS MARY, THE MOTHER OF CHRIST, the “new Eve”. Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.306

"...FURTHERMORE, MANY FATHERS AND DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH HAVE SEEN THE WOMAN ANNOUNCED IN THE PROTOEVANGEIUM AS MARY, THE MOTHER OF CHRIST..."

This is proof of nothing but a feeble attempt on your part to declare your private interpretation as fact or even official teaching of the Catholic Church.

153 posted on 04/17/2012 1:18:40 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am a Biblical Unitarian)
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To: OLD REGGIE

...My interest is in pointing out your selected use of “facts” and the liberties taken to buttress your far from unanimous interpretation.

For example:

CCC
411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross”, makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.305 FURTHERMORE, MANY FATHERS AND DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH HAVE SEEN THE WOMAN ANNOUNCED IN THE PROTOEVANGEIUM AS MARY, THE MOTHER OF CHRIST, the “new Eve”. Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.306

“...FURTHERMORE, MANY FATHERS AND DOCTORS OF THE CHURCH HAVE SEEN THE WOMAN ANNOUNCED IN THE PROTOEVANGEIUM AS MARY, THE MOTHER OF CHRIST...”

This is proof of nothing but a feeble attempt on your part to declare your private interpretation as fact or even official teaching of the Catholic Church.

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What?? It’s in CAPS in the Catechism.

REGGIE, just remember the prophecy and our discussion when the 5th Marian dogma is proclaimed and especially, when the Great Warning happens. Mary is a major part of God’s redemptive plan. God wants everyone to recognize the fact. Lucifer said no to Mary, don’t you. Change instead.

Sadly, Mary is a big block for our brothers and sisters.
One reason... She can’t appear to Protestants, only if God allows by an exception made because you all profess heresy. She will after the Great Warning.

Protestants do not recognize the authority of the Church
on anything but when they are shown the Truth in their authority, their “Bible Alone” with Our Lord’s words in the Gospel and prefigured in the Old Testament they protest by asking, show me where your Church says this...

I give proof, a 4th century saint, St. Ephrem and Church teaching, that’s what the Catechism is for and now you reject it.


154 posted on 04/17/2012 2:06:21 PM PDT by stpio
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