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To: EnglishCon
"Then that nothngness exploded. Why? We haven't got a clue."

The very idea of the big bang is implausible.

If the entire mass of a supergiant star that goes supernova is so great that when it collapses on itself it forms a black hole so that even light cannot escape its gravitational pull, what do scientists do with singularly, which contained the mass of the ENTIRE universe, not just one star?

How do they even dare to say that at some point, it just *let go* and expanded in a trillion trillionth of a second to fill all known space, without any outside impetus?

How could the gravitational attraction of that much mass EVER let anything go?

92 posted on 03/20/2012 6:02:00 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Thank you, as always! You have a gift for scripture that I envy (and enjoy and benefit from!) immensely.

Regarding the Big Bang, I have seen some attempts to get around the problem you describe.

1/ Black holes degrade over time. They stress the fabric of space hard enough that new atoms (or at least quarks) pop into existance along the edge and some escape while others fall in. This reduces the energy and mass of the black hole. There is a tiny bit of evidence for this - not much, but would make the Big Bang more of a a Slow Hiss.

2/ When a black hole gets massive enough, it creates a new universe and the material streams out as an explosion. It is a neat way of getting around the problem of 1 second before, as there wasn’t a second before. The monobloc was in a completely different universe until it broke through and exploded. Sounds strange, but the multiple universe hypothesis is well respected.

3/ It was triggered by something, either some condition we simply cannot understand, or the Word. Which we also cannot understand.

Number 1 does not really fit the scriptures. 2 and 3 both do. 3 is the easiest option to accept in accordance with the Word, but for our Lord, who is by definition outside of time and space, 2 is equally possible.


95 posted on 03/20/2012 6:48:41 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: metmom
"If the entire mass of a supergiant star that goes supernova is so great that when it collapses on itself it forms a black hole so that even light cannot escape its gravitational pull, what do scientists do with singularly, which contained the mass of the ENTIRE universe, not just one star?"

Black holes are theoretical mathematical objects. Essentially they are division by zero and nothing more.

These guys have a better grasp on how the universe actually works. Observable, testable, scalable... plasma.

The Electric Universe

122 posted on 03/21/2012 10:55:35 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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