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To: Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; spirited irish; wagglebee; metmom; exDemMom
So in effect, evidently to keep the religious at bay the physical cosmologists popularized variations of the multiple universe theories, e.g. this universe was spawned from a previous one which was spawned from a previous one and so on. The theories amount to nothing more than "moving the goalpost" — relegating the issue of the beginning of space and time to some prior universe.

P.S.: Dearest sister in Christ, just one further observation. Here you give a splendid illustration of the problem of Infinite Regression. I understand that, in mathematics, if one obtains an infinite regression as a result, this is usually a sign that there is something dreadfully "wrong" about one's equations....

Aristotle proposed that nothing could be either knowable or meaningful under a universal condition of infinite causal regression. Which is probably why he introduced the idea of a primal First Cause — the Unmoved Mover which causes the Cosmos to exist. He argued that, among other things, reason itself would be impossible absent a first-cause Origin of the Cosmos.

535 posted on 03/12/2012 11:18:48 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; YHAOS; spirited irish; metmom
Excellent posts by both of you!

What the Darwinists consistently avoid is the FACT that at some point there HAD TO BE a Creator, even if that Creator did nothing more than "get the ball rolling."

The proponents of the "big bang" theory cannot answer the fact that the particles that eventually combined to form atom DID NOT CREATE THEMSELVES. As you noted with the infinite regression fallacy, these particles could not have emanated from nothing.

536 posted on 03/12/2012 11:34:16 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your insights and encouragements, dearest sister in Christ!

Truly, infinite regression of causes are impossible. To visualize why this is so, consider dominoes. A domino falling over was hit a previous domino that fell over and so on. If there were no starting domino which fell (no first cause) then no dominoes would have fallen. But we see fallen dominoes therefore there was a first cause.

537 posted on 03/12/2012 12:02:14 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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